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I'm really fucking into Kanye West!
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: eS El Duque on July 15, 2004, 11:10:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 15, 2004, 10:45:20 PM ---If he was still underground, just doing beats like Get By for Talib, and This Way for Dilated Peoples, the same people saying overrated would say underrated underground genious.
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nope
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LOL... this is a producer that likes working with Talib, Twist, Common, Mos Def and Dilated Peoples, real hip-hop artist. You're telling me that if he gave them hits, you wouldn't say he was an underground genious. That speed up sample he does is what old school producers used to do back in the day. That's straight old school producing. Only he gives old school production a more up date, radio friendly sound. Now you are to tell me, that a producer who has an old school style that sounds tight, and works with true hip-hop artist, your still telling me that man is overrate. So D.J. Premer is overrate, since people consider him a legend, that the highest honor, his overrated. How is Kanye not a good producer, just because his over exposed, fuck that, He makes hits, that his job. As long as I get to see Dilated Peoples, and Talib Kweli on MTV, I'm a happy man, and songs like Jesus Walks are released, and All Falls Down, both not using the speed up sample, but another style, showing his diversity. No one is calling him the next Dre, the next Premo, but he said his the next Pete Rock, and I agree. He that type of producer like Pete Rock. 10 years from now, he'll still be producing hits for upcoming artist, and he respects the game. What more can you ask of him. His not the greatest, but no one calls him that. His a good producer putting the right people in the mainstream. There is nothing more you can ask of him.
eS El Duque:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 16, 2004, 04:01:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: eS El Duque on July 15, 2004, 11:10:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 15, 2004, 10:45:20 PM ---If he was still underground, just doing beats like Get By for Talib, and This Way for Dilated Peoples, the same people saying overrated would say underrated underground genious.
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nope
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LOL... this is a producer that likes working with Talib, Twist, Common, Mos Def and Dilated Peoples, real hip-hop artist. You're telling me that if he gave them hits, you wouldn't say he was an underground genious.
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OK listen...
1) I didn't call him a bad producer
2) i didn't call him a bad rapper
3) All I said was he's over-rated(like people saying he's the greatest bla bla)..but his album is good
4) I love Jesus Walks and get em high...they're my fav from his albums..and some of his other productions aswell
5) I never thought of him as 'underground' before he broke through with his album
6) When I said 'nope'..i was just answering you're question..my opinion..
7) Done
::Mr. Hahn:::
Its dont think its classic..not right now anyways, i really liked/enjoyed the album, however, the amount of hype he gets, is deserved because hes a breath of fresh air in hip hop...thats my 2 cents n e ways :)
T-Dogg:
I think Kanye's great. He deserves to be on top right now. There's no denying that MTV and other pop culture sources overglorify him and his accomplishment, they do - but he's still a great producer. And, what's more, the stuff he works on isn't what fills the airwaves right now - the ooh-I-love-you-let's-get-crunk-and-have-a-party-at-the-club-and-sip-henny-from-iced-out-pimp-cups -type of "hits". He's brought something fresh to the mainstream. Not many dudes do that. He's not the greatest, but he does what he does really well and in his own way.
And his album still bumps in my system. Don't know if his album still bumps in my system over 10 years after its release like The Chronic does, but right now he's one of the best things mainstream Hip-Hop has to offer.
Bojakabo:
anyone who thinks he btrings a new style to tha game i fuckin craxy, the style has bbeen used since late 80¨´s suckas
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