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To conservatives... a question... no liberals, I just want to know something
M Dogg™:
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--- Quote from: GoodLuvn169 on July 18, 2004, 03:36:05 PM ---If someone came to my door hungry and asking for assistance i would give him food shelter and help him find a JOB. I don't want the government forcing me to give my money to some program i dont want to give it to
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The Bible says you should do so. And conservatives turn to the Bible for many justification, so if conservatives did as they say, they would give the man help. Now can you please answer my question. Please.
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I don't follow the bible. I follow my own set of morals
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Are you Christian? Why is it that Republicans pride themselves on being the party follows the Bible, the more religious party. I ask that, not your own personal opinion and morals. Just comparing conservative and Christian values.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 17, 2004, 09:09:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: SMiLE on July 17, 2004, 06:43:58 PM ---
I think you have a very skewed view of Conservatives.
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Then explain, because I'm very mush a Christian, and yet conservative make it out that they are the Christian side. They take in "family values" and stuff. So explain how conservatives really are, I honestly want to know. Maybe I missed somethings.
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M Dogg, we've had these discussions for years. You're not trying to learn anything, you're just trying to argue. Look @ your signature, that tells me all I need to know about your willingness to learn, and where your heart is at. It's not worth my wasted breath to try and extol what a conservative is, if you want to look into it, I suggest you search around the net, you'll find plenty of conservative groups to discuss it with. Peace~
King Tech Quadafi:
How do you dismiss the mans signature, or use it as a sign that he refuses to learn.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Overseer on July 18, 2004, 11:59:01 AM ---
christianity has been skewed from the start and bent towards mans desires.
conversatives are the selfish, out for #1 ones in society. in really its how you need to be.
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Hmm, I don't really want to argue with that, although I feel you've put it too bluntly. It is true, though, that by helping others, you're often not helping them. You won't meet many conservatives who aren't concerned about starvation and charity, etc... I'm not sure if that's what you're getting at or not.
Conservatives do tend to have the opinion, however, like I alluded to above that helping people out isn't always the answer. My mother is a gambler. She doesn't have a dime to her name, she gambles it all away. As such, she doesn't have clean clothes, she doesn't have a good car, she doesn't have even enough money to get a hamburger to eat sometimes. Now, somepeople might look @ me and consider me cruel and selfish because I won't give her any money... in reality, though, I've realized that I can't help her by giving her money, because she'd just go gamble it away, and I just enabled that. Conservatives have feelings like that when it's warranted, like with the majority of people in poverty. In MY OPINION, you have the ability and the strength simply by being a human being in America to make yourself a better person and rise out of poverty... and this is coming from someone barely removed from it himself. So yes; I'm selfish in that regard; I don't want a social safety net so people can rest on their un-educated, un-realized, un-ambitious laurels; I want the only way you can succeed in life to be by your own merits, equally, and fairly available to anyone by god's grace, and equally rewarded regardless of skin, age, sex, etc. All social programs and affirmative action programs do is further divide us by race and age, and sex, because they seek to balance what shouldn't be unbalanced in the first place. Hard to explain, and no one agrees, so I'll stop here.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 18, 2004, 08:55:03 PM ---How do you dismiss the mans signature, or use it as a sign that he refuses to learn.
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If he wanted to understand conservatives, he wouldn't insult them. Peace~
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