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Lincoln:

--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 18, 2004, 09:16:21 PM ---yeah but as individuals they are responsible for their actions, and to me personally I hold alot of conservative views, but i think Bush and Cheny are both uber-pricks who can burn in hell.

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Agreed.

King Tech Quadafi:

--- Quote from: SMiLE on July 18, 2004, 09:15:22 PM ---To Expound, if I were to denounce Muhammad, you would assume correctly that I probably have a problem with Islam.  If I were to denounce Jesus Christ and Simon Peter, you would correctly assume I had a problem with Christianity, and If I were to denounce the Beatles & Frank Sinatra you would correctly assume that I had a problem with good music.  After a while, certain individuals excel so much @ their chosen cause that they become synonomous with it. 

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Yeah because Mohamed is the prophet of Islam. Jesus is the founder and father of Christains. They are synonomous with their respective faiths. Bush and Cheney are not founders of the republicans, i doubt Bush could even discusss the history of the modern American conservative movement. Basically, conservatism is an ideology and many people fall under this blanket but that does not make them synonomous with them.

Trauma-san:
I don't know much about Cheney, but in my opinion George Bush is a normal man like you and I, and I'm not going to hate him for doing what he thinks is right.  I think he's got a good heart and a good mind, and I believe he does his job to the best of his ability.  I can't ask for more than that in an elected official.  It amazes me that everyone sees him as a snake in the grass when it's clearly apparent to me that's he's honest to a fault, even to the point that it makes him look like a buffoon on television.  

King Tech Quadafi:

--- Quote from: SMiLE on July 18, 2004, 09:19:26 PM ---I don't know much about Cheney, but in my opinion George Bush is a normal man like you and I, and I'm not going to hate him for doing what he thinks is right.  I think he's got a good heart and a good mind, and I believe he does his job to the best of his ability.  I can't ask for more than that in an elected official.  It amazes me that everyone sees him as a snake in the grass when it's clearly apparent to me that's he's honest to a fault, even to the point that it makes him look like a buffoon on television. 

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Thats the difference between u and me i guess. You see a hardworking well meaning devoted public servant. I see a well placed puppet in a well oiled system. I mean, I think I could have a beer with Dubya and enjoy the company. We can discuss movies, football, baseball. But the mans a dick, his actions and the consequences of his decisions in my opinion makes him a dick regardless of party affiliation and ideological persuation.

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on July 18, 2004, 09:19:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: SMiLE on July 18, 2004, 09:15:22 PM ---To Expound, if I were to denounce Muhammad, you would assume correctly that I probably have a problem with Islam.  If I were to denounce Jesus Christ and Simon Peter, you would correctly assume I had a problem with Christianity, and If I were to denounce the Beatles & Frank Sinatra you would correctly assume that I had a problem with good music.  After a while, certain individuals excel so much @ their chosen cause that they become synonomous with it. 

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Yeah because Mohamed is the prophet of Islam. Jesus is the founder and father of Christains. They are synonomous with their respective faiths. Bush and Cheney are not founders of the republicans, i doubt Bush could even discusss the history of the modern American conservative movement. Basically, conservatism is an ideology and many people fall under this blanket but that does not make them synonomous with them.

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Michael Eisner headed Disney for so many years, his name is now Synonomous with it, although he didn't found the company, Walt Disney did.  Eisner is associated strongly with it however because he rose to the position of CEO within the company.  As he is the head man @ Disney, George Bush is very much the chief of the Republican movement.  

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