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Woodrow:
Censorship is the use of state or group power to control freedom of expression. Censorship 'criminalizes' certain actions or the communication of such actions - or suggested communications of such actions.

Jome:

--- Quote from: Woodrow on July 21, 2004, 12:05:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Woodrow on July 20, 2004, 11:01:35 PM ---So, people countering your opinion with their own, differing, opinion and speaking with their check books is censorship? Nope. It's not censorship just because you misread your audience.  When the GOVERNMENT says you can't do something under penalty of law, that's censorship. When private actors level sanctions/boycotts against other private actors, that's freedom of association.

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Ok Engel, let's draw the line between 2 different things.


--- Quote ---cen·sor·ship    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (snsr-shp)
n.
   1. The act, process, or practice of censoring.
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censoring
A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
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^^ This is the case of Linda Ronstadt being pulled off stage.
She was being c-e-n-s-o-r-e-d.


--- Quote ---Main Entry: freedom of speech
: the right to express information, ideas, and opinions free of government restrictions based on content and subject only to reasonable limitations (as the power of the government to avoid a clear and present danger) esp. as guaranteed by the First and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution
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Obviously, since this is a U.S. dictionary, the term "freedom of speech" is defined different in U.S. than in other countries.
It's written in the constitution, so this was not the case in Linda's case.

Comprende.. ?
When MTV removes cuss-words or political opinions like Jada's line, it's censorship.
If NBC had removed Janet's titty from the screen or blanked it out, it's censorship.
You do NOT have to the government to be able to censor something, bottom line.



--- Quote from: Woodrow on July 21, 2004, 12:09:36 PM ---Censorship is the use of state or group power to control freedom of expression.

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Get a better dictionary.
And don't forget to post up the other meanings of the word as well.


Woodrow:
These past two days you've been on a real Anti-American binge. When did you become so close minded?

You are wrong. Ask any college professor what censorship is and they will give you the definition of what I just said. Nobody's freedom of speech was infrigned on. Nobody was censored.

Woodrow:

--- Quote from: Woodrow on July 21, 2004, 12:37:16 PM ---These past two days you've been on a real Anti-American binge. When did you become so close minded?
You are wrong. Ask any college professor what censorship is and they will give you the definition of what I just said. Nobody's freedom of speech was infrigned on. Nobody was censored.
OH SHIT! I JUST CENSORED MYSELF!
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Jome:
What is anti-American about defining the word "censored".. ??
You need to draw the line between "freedom of speech" and "censoring", I already did it for you.


--- Quote ---censoring
A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
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See.. ?
What does America and the government have to do with this.. ??
If she was pulled off stage in Norway for the same reasons, I would still call it "censoring" !!

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