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Quote from: Jome on July 20, 2004, 09:32:27 PMBeing escorted off stage because you encourage someone to go see a movie, how will you categorize that.. ?I wouldn't call it censorship. It doesn't even fit into the same category. Did the government step in and tell her not to say something or else she would face consequences? Nope. She chose to politicize her concert, and the owners of the venue chose not to accept it.
Being escorted off stage because you encourage someone to go see a movie, how will you categorize that.. ?
Jome, You really can't be comparing the two can you? 8 mile is a movie about a rapper. Entertainment. the moore movie is a highly political flick that obviously a lot of people don't agree with."Ms Ronstadt was hired to entertain the guests of the Aladdin, not to espouse her political views. In an effort to defuse the situation, Linda Ronstadt was asked to leave the property immediately following her performance,"http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040720/ts_alt_afp/us_politics_music_people_040720193348This is a non issue.
that obviously a lot of people don't agree with
Quote from: Woodrow on July 20, 2004, 10:09:03 PMQuote from: Jome on July 20, 2004, 09:32:27 PMBeing escorted off stage because you encourage someone to go see a movie, how will you categorize that.. ?I wouldn't call it censorship. It doesn't even fit into the same category. Did the government step in and tell her not to say something or else she would face consequences? Nope. She chose to politicize her concert, and the owners of the venue chose not to accept it.Interesting..I never mentioned the government, but she was still being censored by the concert people who closed it down..Personally, I'd be pissed if I got fired for telling people to go see a movie, political or not.Would you accept being fired for this.. ?
Politics = Entertainment In the U.S. at least.. and Michael Moore is a entertaining mofo, at least to people with a non-biased point of view.
And this is a argument to shut down her show.. ?It's funny how hot-headed some people get when the name Michael Moore is brought up, it's obvious that he hit some vital nerves..
They edited out Jada's "Why did Bush knock down them towers?" line, that's not freedom of speech.Being escorted off stage because you encourage someone to go see a movie, how will you categorize that.. ?
Did you just say Michael more was Un-biased?Have you even seen his movie? Have you seen any of his movies? Moor himself admits he's one of the most biased people out there.
If the Alladin felt it was going to hurt their busienss, and obviously it was cause people were getting upset, it was great decision to make.
who the fuck are THEY?the government didn't edit Jada. Jada's fucking record company edited it out......why? probably didn't want a back lash... a la Rondstat, Dixie Chicks, ect. Jome please stop being so niggled
Fine, but you still can't say it's not censorship..If a couple had sex on stage (like a couple did in Norway some weeks ago), and they were taken off stage, that would also be censorship because some people didn't like it.. wouldn't it.. ?
So, people countering your opinion with their own, differing, opinion and speaking with their check books is censorship? Nope. It's not censorship just because you misread your audience. When the GOVERNMENT says you can't do something under penalty of law, that's censorship. When private actors level sanctions/boycotts against other private actors, that's freedom of association
censoring.# A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.
They edited out Jada's "Why did Bush knock down them towers?" line, that's not freedom of speech.Being escorted off stage because you encourage someone to go see a movie, how will you categorize that.. ?QuoteBefore singing "Desperado" for an encore Saturday night, the 58-year-old rocker called Moore a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth." She also encouraged everybody to see the documentary about President Bush (news - web sites).This is too funny..If Eminem told people on stage to go see 8 Mile, how would that be dramaticly different.. ?Unless she made personal attacks against Bush, I can't see what fuckup she has done..
Before singing "Desperado" for an encore Saturday night, the 58-year-old rocker called Moore a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth." She also encouraged everybody to see the documentary about President Bush (news - web sites).
she was in america dissing the president...maybe the people at the concert love the president??? so they bood her....
^^ Is it THAT EASY to get fired in the States.. ?? Who said anything about the government, nobody blamed Bush yet.. ? lol
^ Freedom of speech only applies when dealing with the government. She was on private property, and therefore had no freedom of speech.
So, people countering your opinion with their own, differing, opinion and speaking with their check books is censorship? Nope. It's not censorship just because you misread your audience. When the GOVERNMENT says you can't do something under penalty of law, that's censorship. When private actors level sanctions/boycotts against other private actors, that's freedom of association.