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Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Overseer on July 21, 2004, 02:01:47 AM ---
i dont understand how 'the wall' can be right..

the situation there is so fucked though...  neither side deserves shit

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Basically, yup.  The Wall symbolizes Israel's attempt to give up on the situation.  If It was my decision, I don't know that it would be any different.  They can't keep on killing each other forever.  Oh wait a minute, I forgot I'm Christian.  They will go on killing each other, until Armageddon.  As a matter of fact, the bible mentions all of this and more, and if the bible holds true, it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse.  Jerusalem won't see peace until Christ's millineum is ushered in. 

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on July 21, 2004, 05:39:20 AM ---to those in favour of the wall. think of this scenario it would be like america going into mexico bludozering down a load of towns, famrs etc. to and building a wall on that land, it just would never happen, no one would agree to that. if a country wants to build an illegal wall to protect themselves i guess thats ok on the condition it was built on their own land not in anouther country all together. another to point to think about when the boarders of israel is still under negotiation in the road map building a wall makes these negotiations irrelivant israel is unilaterally decideding their hugely extended boarders.

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that's a grossly improper analogy.  First, Mexico and the United States have a civil relationship, even if we don't agree on a lot of things.  No American (I.E., me) wishes any harm on Mexico, and we don't want a wall between the two countries, because they're civilized human beings whom we get along with.  The latino population in America is growing by leaps and bounds, and some people are pissed off about it, but we're not talking about killing people here.  We would never think of putting a bomb on a bus full of Mexican children, and they would never think of doing that to us, either.  So comparing the U.S. and Mexico with Palestine and Israel is rediculous.  They have a totally different situation over there, so no, it would not be like us bulldozing into Mexico and building a wall on their land.  It would be nothing like that. 

Sikotic™:

--- Quote from: SMiLE on July 22, 2004, 07:02:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Overseer on July 21, 2004, 02:01:47 AM ---
i dont understand how 'the wall' can be right..

the situation there is so fucked though...  neither side deserves shit

--- End quote ---

Basically, yup.  The Wall symbolizes Israel's attempt to give up on the situation.  If It was my decision, I don't know that it would be any different.  They can't keep on killing each other forever.  Oh wait a minute, I forgot I'm Christian.  They will go on killing each other, until Armageddon.  As a matter of fact, the bible mentions all of this and more, and if the bible holds true, it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse.  Jerusalem won't see peace until Christ's millineum is ushered in. 

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Very true words

Montana00:

--- Quote from: SMiLE on July 22, 2004, 07:02:52 PM ---Basically, yup.  The Wall symbolizes Israel's attempt to give up on the situation.  If It was my decision, I don't know that it would be any different.  They can't keep on killing each other forever.  Oh wait a minute, I forgot I'm Christian.  They will go on killing each other, until Armageddon.  As a matter of fact, the bible mentions all of this and more, and if the bible holds true, it's just gonna keep getting worse and worse and worse.  Jerusalem won't see peace until Christ's millineum is ushered in. 

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Exactly

King Tech Quadafi:
Englewood

since when does "having a favourable impression of his sermouns and rhetoric" amount to supporting Al Qaeda and its actions?

Again, u totally completely ignore what conditions have led to an entire regions population hating the Americans so much that an Osama speech appeals to them.

You ignore the crimes of your govt and its agencies. You ignore the influence foreign interests have in Washington. You ignore the sufferings by Muslims at the hands of Americans and Israelis. You cry about Osama Bin Laden, some Saudi playboy-cum-mujahid, propped up by you guys of course who -according to the most liberal of estimates- has about what? 5,000 lives on his head?
But ignore the millions of Muslim deaths on your govts head. You ignore, or are legitimately ignorant to, this disgusting evil system that is the U.S. govt, polluted and corrupted by the stench of money and blood. As Killa Cam would say, the shits disgusting. You are blind. You are blind to what is going on around you while your head is lost in the capitalist, God Bless America, clouds. You only see Black and White. And my friend, this shit aint that simple.

Mauzip, pray tell. Can you please tell me what an angry Palestinian is supposed to support? A baricaded powerless and useless Arafat or the glorious IDF? Your delicate self can never begin to imagine the conditions a Palestinian lives in. Forget about actually physically experiencing it your self. If I was born a Palestinian I would have been dead by now. The Palestinians have gotten one of the biggest dick in the mouth, historically speaking. I mean, its not that they were just defeated militarily, they get evicted from their land, out of no where by a bunch of Europeans. Their Arab brothers fail pathetically to do justice. Israelis take more land. Create a nation out of the ashes of theirs. Become one of the most powerful nations on Earth. Continue to slap Palestinians around. And now thanks to revesionist historians and this facade we call the media, have managed to turn the Palestinians into the bad guys. Which all comes back to pussy Dutch she-men complaining about "80% of Palestinians support Hamas, like,.....Oh my God"

Pathetic

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