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7even:

--- Quote from: Thirteen on July 25, 2004, 03:59:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 25, 2004, 03:50:51 PM ---
--- Quote ---Yeah, that's how I feel. I think things at home will be better, we will have better relations with other nations because we won't be attacking random countries for no reason, but as far as foreign policies (minus wars) go, nothing much will change.
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"Attacking countries for no reason"...
so you think going into afganistan was for no reason...I think you forgot 9/11. Afganistan was ruled by a terriost taliban government that housed Al Quiada and was resnsible for 9/11.

Also we attacked Iraq cuz there was a dictaor there that killed  hunderds of thousands of incent people in the middle east and was threating countries(isreal0 and was invading kuwait and all the oil filled countries and taking there oil.


--- Quote ---speaking of striking a fear of possible terrorism, lets see how the 1 billion dollar price tag of security at the olympics pays off.
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would u rather be safe or sorry?


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the only reason i disagree with the iraq war is because they changed the reason for doing it so many times...other than that, i think good things will come from it.....we just have to wait and sit it out

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guess why they changed it so often..
they always named trash reasons, and got sonned easily. so they gave new reasons. sonned again. and so on. truth is, there is no noble reason. the true reasons are 1. personal revenge against saddam (hint: seniour bush) 2. oil 3. taking attention away from the fact they were unable to get bin laden

Maradona:

--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 25, 2004, 03:50:51 PM ---
--- Quote ---Yeah, that's how I feel. I think things at home will be better, we will have better relations with other nations because we won't be attacking random countries for no reason, but as far as foreign policies (minus wars) go, nothing much will change.
--- End quote ---

"Attacking countries for no reason"...
so you think going into afganistan was for no reason...I think you forgot 9/11. Afganistan was ruled by a terriost taliban government that housed Al Quiada and was resnsible for 9/11.

Also we attacked Iraq cuz there was a dictaor there that killed  hunderds of thousands of incent people in the middle east and was threating countries(isreal0 and was invading kuwait and all the oil filled countries and taking there oil.


--- Quote ---speaking of striking a fear of possible terrorism, lets see how the 1 billion dollar price tag of security at the olympics pays off.
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would u rather be safe or sorry?


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LMFAO. We went into Iraq cuz Iraq threatened Israel? Really? Is that the reason?
Iraq "invaded" Kuwait? Isn't that what the Gulf War in 91 was about?
It invaded other countries as well? Really? Which ones?

Saddam has been a dictator since he came into power, but we chose to support him before, we even gave him the necessary weapons to kill. Why did we do business with him then? Why didn't we care about his torture? Oh yea, he hooked us up with oil, and we got angry when he nationalized the oil fields.

You're a fuckin idiot. Honestly. I can't believe you said this war is about Iraq invading other countries. You should just slowly walk your way out of TOT.

Machiavelli:

--- Quote ---LMFAO. We went into Iraq cuz Iraq threatened Israel? Really? Is that the reason?
Iraq "invaded" Kuwait? Isn't that what the Gulf War in 91 was about?
It invaded other countries as well? Really? Which ones?
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We went into Iraq beacuse of WMDs. But then we found out that WMDs were never found. So then the reason for going into Iraq was to take out the dictator Saddam Hussinen who was respnonsible for killing hunderds of thousands of people in the middle east. Also Iraq invaded Iran before.


--- Quote ---Saddam has been a dictator since he came into power, but we chose to support him before, we even gave him the necessary weapons to kill. Why did we do business with him then? Why didn't we care about his torture? Oh yea, he hooked us up with oil, and we got angry when he nationalized the oil fields.
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Cuz during that time he wasnt commiting war crimes and killing people.


--- Quote ---You're a fuckin idiot. Honestly. I can't believe you said this war is about Iraq invading other countries. You should just slowly walk your way out of TOT.
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I never said it was about invading other countries.

Maradona:

--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 25, 2004, 06:43:18 PM ---
--- Quote ---LMFAO. We went into Iraq cuz Iraq threatened Israel? Really? Is that the reason?
Iraq "invaded" Kuwait? Isn't that what the Gulf War in 91 was about?
It invaded other countries as well? Really? Which ones?
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We went into Iraq beacuse of WMDs. But then we found out that WMDs were never found. So then the reason for going into Iraq was to take out the dictator Saddam Hussinen who was respnonsible for killing hunderds of thousands of people in the middle east. Also Iraq invaded Iran before.

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So, we went into Iraq because of WMDs, but then after people realized that was a lie, we changed our reason. LOL, Iraq was at war with Iran in the 80s, I don't know what that has to do with the current war. Are you lost for words or what?


--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 25, 2004, 06:43:18 PM ---
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--- Quote ---Saddam has been a dictator since he came into power, but we chose to support him before, we even gave him the necessary weapons to kill. Why did we do business with him then? Why didn't we care about his torture? Oh yea, he hooked us up with oil, and we got angry when he nationalized the oil fields.
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Cuz during that time he wasnt commiting war crimes and killing people.

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Actually he was committing crimes and killing people for decades.


--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 25, 2004, 06:43:18 PM ---
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--- Quote ---You're a fuckin idiot. Honestly. I can't believe you said this war is about Iraq invading other countries. You should just slowly walk your way out of TOT.
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I never said it was about invading other countries.

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You didn't? Here is what you said:

--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 25, 2004, 06:43:18 PM ---
--- Quote ---threating countries(isreal0 and was invading kuwait and all the oil filled countries and taking there oil.

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I believe the correct term to describe this situation is.... OWNED 8)



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Machiavelli:

--- Quote ---Iraq was at war with Iran in the 80s, I don't know what that has to do with the current war. Are you lost for words or what?
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I said that cuz u asked me this:
--- Quote ---It invaded other countries as well? Really? Which ones?
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--- Quote ---Actually he was committing crimes and killing people for decades.
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ok i dindt know that. But maybe the US was unaware of this.



--- Quote ---You're a fuckin idiot. Honestly. I can't believe you said this war is about Iraq invading other countries. You should just slowly walk your way out of TOT.
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--- Quote ---I never said it was about invading other countries.
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You didn't? Here is what you said:

--- Quote ---threating countries(isreal0 and was invading kuwait and all the oil filled countries and taking there oil.

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--- Quote ---I believe the correct term to describe this situation is.... OWNED 8)
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I also said this:


--- Quote ---Also we attacked Iraq cuz there was a dictaor there that killed  hunderds of thousands of incent people in the middle east
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