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Bill O'Reilly targets another rapper
Smoke:
I feel you. What i say is that maybe it's wrong. But it's nothing personal about Bush, you know what i mean? It's like that everywhere. Put Clinton or whoever instead of Bush and you have the same situation. They do the same things here in Italy. Everyday. It's something i think will never change. When you get the power, you dont want it to be damaged by someone. Other than that, and that's a personal opinion i have, i think Jadakiss did a stupid move. Cause he aint the same charisma and intelligence Pac (for example) had. Pac had the skills and the "power" to say "fuck Bush, fuck MTV, i'm going all out!". Cause he was intellingent, and political. Jadakiss no. Somebody probably wrote that line for him. Or he said it by himself, but i'm sure if i talk with him, he doesnt even know what the fuck he's talking about and he'll just say common stupid things with no evidences, no intelligence, no real arguments to discuss. If Pac said something like that, then ok, it was something interesting. Cause asked about it, Pac could have replied with some intelligent things (i aint saying "correct" things, just intelligent things. Just from another point of view, you know). Jadakiss really has nothing to more to add, imo. Just a line.
M Dogg™:
Jadakiss has already gather more media attention in the past few months than all of his career put together, and he just got a deal with Microsoft to start slanging X-Box's. I think it was a smart move by Jadakiss. After Michael Moore's film, it was a good way to ask why, but at the sametime not really accuse Bush of doing anything. It's like I can ask, Jake, why you masterbate? He can answer, I don't masterbate, and all will be good. Jadakiss can ask, why did Bush knock over the towers, and Bush can say, I didn't knock over the towers. Parents do it all the time, why you kick the dog, I didn't kick the dog, and that's that. And for a question, Jadakiss is getting more attention than his ever had, and his sales increase. Smart move.
And Jake, what I'm trying to say is, that it is wrong that Bill O'Reily is singling out Jadakiss by slandering him through the media. He is telling people to boycott the companies that support him. I don't care about the MTV edit, because they editted out when Kanye West says the White man get's paid off of all of that, which I thought shouldn't be, so obviously they're going to edit out Jada's line. What MTV does is their business. But what O'Reily says to damage another person is wrong. He could make a comment about it, he can talk about it, but to slander Jada's name the way he is, is just wrong.
Smoke:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 31, 2004, 02:12:48 PM ---And Jake, what I'm trying to say is, that it is wrong that Bill O'Reily is singling out Jadakiss by slandering him through the media.
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I dont live in the States, i live in Italy. I dont even know this guy. BUT.. dont you think he was been paid to say/do them things? Isnt it a smart move for him and his career too to defend Bush? Yes, it is. Yes, he got paid. Yes, it's wrong. Yes, good morning.
Don Jacob:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 31, 2004, 02:12:48 PM ---Jadakiss has already gather more media attention in the past few months than all of his career put together, and he just got a deal with Microsoft to start slanging X-Box's. I think it was a smart move by Jadakiss. After Michael Moore's film, it was a good way to ask why, but at the sametime not really accuse Bush of doing anything. It's like I can ask, Jake, why you masterbate? He can answer, I don't masterbate, and all will be good. Jadakiss can ask, why did Bush knock over the towers, and Bush can say, I didn't knock over the towers. Parents do it all the time, why you kick the dog, I didn't kick the dog, and that's that. And for a question, Jadakiss is getting more attention than his ever had, and his sales increase. Smart move.
And Jake, what I'm trying to say is, that it is wrong that Bill O'Reily is singling out Jadakiss by slandering him through the media. He is telling people to boycott the companies that support him. I don't care about the MTV edit, because they editted out when Kanye West says the White man get's paid off of all of that, which I thought shouldn't be, so obviously they're going to edit out Jada's line. What MTV does is their business. But what O'Reily says to damage another person is wrong. He could make a comment about it, he can talk about it, but to slander Jada's name the way he is, is just wrong.
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so if it's right for jadakiss to ask "why" bush knocked down the towers (basically in a nut shell saying something thta isn't true) shouldn't it be okay for bill o'reily to protest Jada...??
i'm not defeding either here, frankly both bill and jada can choke on eachother dicks and die and i wouldn't care, but What bill is doing here is throwing it back in jada's face the same way jada was trying to do to bush. You say it's Jada's constitutional right to ask why, but in the same frame it's also bill's right to protest against something he doesn't agree with . what is it that he doesn't agree with ....a "musician" who spent most of his career promoting negative things like slanging drugs, violence , sexism, ect. who has a new album out promoting the same thing but contradicts it and all the sudden wants to be possitive on one track. let that sit for a while.....it would be one thing if Kiss of death was all tracks that were like why (for example "what's going on) but he gets possitive on ONE track then diminishes it by telling kids , go fuck every girl you meet , slang drugs to get by ...cuz lord knows that's the "ONLY " way to make it. Imagine you're punk ass 50 year old dude seeing some punk ass on tv doing this ? you'd do the same and i'm sure later on in your life you will.
frankly both are dumbasses. Jadakiss was stupid to say bush knocked down the towers, and Bill is just as stupid for making this the main focus of his life.
M Dogg™:
It was a metaphor according to Jada. Check it out yourself... from CNN.
NEW YORK (AP) -- Over the years, the rapper Jadakiss has depicted a world of drug dealing, murder and other assorted mayhem without raising many eyebrows.
But seven words in his new song "Why" -- "Why did Bush knock down the towers?" -- has gotten Jadakiss the most mainstream attention, and criticism, of his career.
"It caught the ear of white America," he said proudly during a phone interview with The Associated Press. "It's a good thing. No matter what you do, somebody's not going to like it, but for the most part, most people love the song."
Not everyone loves it. Bill O'Reilly called Jadakiss a "smear merchant" this week, and some radio stations have edited out the line in the song, in which Jadakiss talks about perceived injustices, conspiracies and problems affecting the world. MTV says it is playing an edited version of the video, as it was sent by his label, Interscope.
Jadakiss says fans have demanded to hear the original version.
"In the beginning, they would edit, but after that, everybody called back for the version that was calling Bush (out)," he says.
Jadakiss doesn't really believe Bush ordered the towers destroyed -- he says the line is a metaphor, and that Bush should take the blame for the terrorist attack because his administration didn't do enough to stop it.
"They didn't follow up on a lot of things properly," says Jadakiss. "It's the president of the United States. The buck stops with him."
The controversy doesn't appear to be hurting Jadakiss -- his new album, "Kiss of Death," released last month, is nearing 500,000 copies sold. However, his song "Why?" has stalled at No. 16 on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles chart.
Hearing Jadakiss converse about political issues is a new concept -- the rapper, who began his career as part of the group The Lox, is more known for his gritty rhymes about street life.
But Jadakiss says his outlook has changed.
"I'm growing up, I'm getting a little older. I've got two kids. I'm almost 30 years old," says the Yonkers, New York native.
He talks up "Fahrenheit 9/11" as an important, must-see movie -- he's watched it twice -- and he's even registering to vote in the upcoming presidential election, a first for him. (He backs John Kerry.) He wants the minimum wage raised and more jobs created.
"As a rapper, as an artist, we've got power," he said. "If we can get people to vote from the ages 18 to 44, we can make a change."
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