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WWII: America vs Germany
Don Seer:
and the british completing the cracking of the enigma machine. the polish were a huge part of that too. having seized the first machines and having cracked an earlier version of the code.
...years later americans then make a movie claiming they did it all on their own ::)
to me fact is...without the "alliance" the germans would have won.
singlehandedly we couldnt do it. none of us could have.
if england weren't seperated by mainland europe as much as it is (20 miles of sea at the closest) the story may well have been very different.
M Dogg™:
Honestly the U.S. would have won. Historical fact, the war would not be fought in the Americans because Mexico had repeatly turn down offers from Germany to help them out, so Germany would have to travel by water and by air, which the U.S. would be ready to respond. Also, France would aid any invasion of Germany, here's a little secret, for 100's of years, they didn't along. So right there the war is fought in Germany. Also, we got the Atomic Bomb because many of the inventors were guess what, Jewish. Many of the scientist left, either because they were Jewish, or many scientist just didn't agree with Hitler and left. We used these scientist to get the atomic bomb first. So if you ask me who would, it'd be like how it happen, Germany with an early lead, the U.S. as time goes on, and in the end, an Atomic Explosion. only over Berlin this time.
Entreri117:
Heres one thing you people seem to forget...the atomic bomb did not show up until 1945...because it took them that long to research and engineer the thing. The war could have ended before then. Also, who knows America would have even used it? The A-bomb was used for two reasons only:
1) To save the lives of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers if the war continued on at it's rate.
2) To quickly put an end to the war b/c America was tired of fighting it.
Another thing people seem to forget is a battle called Kasserine Pass, which was the first ground engagement between American and German forces. What happened? The American forces were, quite literally, annihilated. Germans had superior leadership, much better tanks and artillery, and German troops were MUCH better trained.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Artemis Entreri on July 28, 2004, 10:42:33 AM ---Heres one thing you people seem to forget...the atomic bomb did not show up until 1945...because it took them that long to research and engineer the thing. The war could have ended before then. Also, who knows America would have even used it? The A-bomb was used for two reasons only:
1) To save the lives of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers if the war continued on at it's rate.
2) To quickly put an end to the war b/c America was tired of fighting it.
Another thing people seem to forget is a battle called Kasserine Pass, which was the first ground engagement between American and German forces. What happened? The American forces were, quite literally, annihilated. Germans had superior leadership, much better tanks and artillery, and German troops were MUCH better trained.
--- End quote ---
Germany was better prepared for war first, which is why it benefit for us (The U.S.) to enter the war late, or else we'd end up like France. Now it is true, the Soviet Union was the major factor of Ally victory, because they just threw people at Germany until Germany started going backward. Soviet Russia lost more people than almost everyone else put together, plus Germany could not handle the winter.
But the United States vs. Nazi Germany, as I said, at first the Nazi's would be winning the war. Though I think Franklin D. Roosevelt would find a way to win, plus Eisenhower was a great general and MacArthur would not be occupied with Japan. The U.S. military would all be focused in Germany, meaning the Marines, the United States strangest soldiers would also be in Germany. In WWII, the Marines were in the pacific, and the Army, the largest but less skilled branch, was in Germany. So you would have a whole United States in Germany. This would give the United States more than enough time to develope teh bomb, which was originally suppose to be for Germany, which is why it was a hard choice to drop it in Japan. We never wanted to drop the bomb on Japan, because at the time, well, we only had 2. Those were suppose to be for military cities in Germany.
Montana00:
It all comes down to Germany was the only country actually prepared for war.
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