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WWII: America vs Germany

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Smoke:
Motivations has nothing to do with USA not being prepared to fight sea-air fights, to defend themselves from japaneeses and kamikazees, to go defeating Germany when they were already fighting from 5 years alone against the whole world, and winning. Plus american soldiers didnt even know about holocaust at all. Germany were unbeatable by a single nation. At least in a small period of time. They didnt collapse with the whole world fighting them for almost 6 years.. how is it possible to think they could have been (easly?) defeated just by a single nation? (not prepared to war).

M Dogg™:
The U.S. at the time didn't go into Germany and Japan at the start of the war for one reason, we were not ready. Germany took Europe by storm, crushing countries that were not ready. Poland, France, all of Eastern Europe, England, if England was on main land Europe, they'd be crush. Geography plays a huge role. If the United States was right next to Germany, the U.S. would fall. But I keep saying, it would be fought in Germany. Mexico was against Germany, so was Canada, meaning Germany would have no where to house soldiers. Plus the United States militaries best fighters were fighting the Japanese front in the Pacific. You add those to the Europe front, and the fact that we don't have to invade Germany until we feel ready to. It's different. And Hitler didn't not get the bomb because Germany was getting bombed, he didn't get the bomb because his best scientist left Germany to come to the United States. Does Albert Einstein ring a bell. Many of the A-Bomb scientist were Jewish, so if they stayed in Germany they'd die. Hitler was sitting on the A-Bomb and gave it away. It would all be a matter of time. If Germany can fight back the U.S., and find a way to take the war to the North America, then, and only then can Germany win. I'm not arguing who was better perpared, who's generals where better, who had greater technology, but you have to understand, even in 1941 the United States had a hell of a military, and the Marines in the Pacific fought some of the greatest battles in world history, proving their reputation. All we had was time, Hitler gave us the bomb chasing away the scientist, and unless he can get the war across the ocean, Germany could not win. Hitler knew the U.S. entering was certain defeat, because he could not invade the U.S. That's why we suffered no damage. He was hoping Japan could take care of us, distract us and make us fight the same 2 front war that they were fighting. Geography again, I'll say it, geography. All we had to do was hold out as long as we can, until Einstein and his boys got it right, and it was over.

Thirteen:

--- Quote from: M Dogg on July 28, 2004, 05:27:14 PM ---Awww... but see, I figure Hitler would lose the war against the U.S.

I am realizing how dumb this question is. Are people just looking for someone to beat the U.S. I remember when no one thought Mike Tyson could lose, they said Ali could beat him... which is true... but it doesn't matter. If anyone wants to see a nation that can beat the U.S. in war, look no further than China. There, Hitler would lose against the U.S. on his own stupity, which counts, an army is only is as good as it's head, and China now can beat the U.S. now. Simple.

U.S. in 1941 had Roosevelt leading Eisenhower, MacArthur, the U.S. Marines were not even in Europe, they were in the Pacific, which the U.S. fought by it's self, well supplying England with troops to fight Germany. Also, if you lived anywhere near a military base in the U.S., you know because in our history we mobilized many steel mills, and airplane tank factories everywhere. I live in a place that had a steel mill, airplane factory and air force base all within 5 miles of each other, and until it all closed in the 80's, that's how people here made money was through these industries. The U.S. mobilized all of it's resources after Pearl Harbor really quick, and all we had to do in 1941, was basically wait out until 1945 when we had the atomic bomb. We rebuild after Pearl Harbor really quickly, and we took a year to get everything ready, reload our Navy, and rush through the Pacific ocean with ease. Maybe it's because I live in an area with a lot of Marines, but I do not see us losing a war with Germany when our soldiers believe in the war we our fighting in, and the Holocaust would be good enough to get our soldiers fighting.

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china doesn't stand a chance now or ever

DAYUM:
We're talking about U.S. against Germany, with no help from other countries, so no housing troops in Europe for the U.S.  And you act as if the Germans were idiots, they had some of the smartest scietists in the world, you act as if they couldnt make a A-Bomb when its common knowledge they were so close, if germany had lasted a month or 2 longer it would have been ready, and that was while the constant bombing in europe was going on.  Even if both germand and the u.s. had the same time to prepare germany would have won. They would have won at sea and at air with their u-boats and superior planes. why you cant see that i dunno, but believe what you wanna believe, even if it is the wrong thing to believe.

DAYUM:
PLUS the man who created the A-Bomb where was he from?

answer that question thank you...

IM OUT!!! ;D

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