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pappy:
For those that watched.... Michael Moore or Bill O'Reilly.  I say pretty even slight edge moore.

Machiavelli:
O´Reilly. Moore was not answering the questions correctly and was using irrelevant comments. I mean what the hell is this:

BILL O'REILLY: The issues... all right good, now, one of the issues is you because you've been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass destruction, the Senate Intelligence Committee, Lord Butler's investigation in Britain, and now the 9/11 Commission have all come out and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush.  Plus, Vladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons of mass destruction.  Wanna apologize to the president now or later?


MOORE: He didn't tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass destruction.

O'REILLY: Yeah, but he didn't lie, he was misinformed by - all of those investigations come to the same conclusion, that's not a lie.

MOORE: uh huh, so in other words if I told you right now that nothing was going on down here on the stage that would not be a lie?

hector:
so what if bush was misinformed.  what kind of fucking excuse is that?  thats a poor excuse that shouldn't stand.  If your son or daughter was killed in the war, would you accept that?  I sure fuckin wouldn't.  Bush is the President.  That is a huge responsibility.  Saying you are misinformed does not cut it in my book.  you think that would ever hold up in court? 

Oh, Judge, well I shot the man in the head and killed him, because everybody told me that he was out to kill me.  I mean, he never personally threatened me, but all my best friends said that he wanted to kill me.  So I just acted in my best interest and killed him.  Its not my fault, I was just misinformed.

yeah right.  poor fucking excuse.  apologize for your mistake and make it up to the parents of the dead soldiers.

Machiavelli:

--- Quote ---so what if bush was misinformed.  what kind of fucking excuse is that?  thats a poor excuse that shouldn't stand.  If your son or daughter was killed in the war, would you accept that?  I sure fuckin wouldn't.  Bush is the President.  That is a huge responsibility.  Saying you are misinformed does not cut it in my book.  you think that would ever hold up in court? 
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What would you do if  the CIA, Brittan Intelligence, and Russian Intelligence were saying that there were WMDs in Iraq? Your the President of the United States of America,  you would not act to go to Iraq?



--- Quote ---Oh, Judge, well I shot the man in the head and killed him, because everybody told me that he was out to kill me.  I mean, he never personally threatened me, but all my best friends said that he wanted to kill me.  So I just acted in my best interest and killed him.  Its not my fault, I was just misinformed.
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LOL..We are talking about the president here. Thats Apples and Oranges



Also I agree with you that Bush should go out in public and say that Iraq war to find WMDs was a mistake - due to bad intelligence from his sources.

pappy:

--- Quote from: Machiavelli on July 27, 2004, 09:06:12 PM ---O´Reilly. Moore was not answering the questions correctly and was using irrelevant comments. I mean what the hell is this:

BILL O'REILLY: The issues... all right good, now, one of the issues is you because you've been calling Bush a liar on weapons of mass destruction, the Senate Intelligence Committee, Lord Butler's investigation in Britain, and now the 9/11 Commission have all come out and said there was no lying on the part of President Bush.  Plus, Vladimir Putin has said his intelligence told Bush there were weapons of mass destruction.  Wanna apologize to the president now or later?


MOORE: He didn't tell the truth, he said there were weapons of mass destruction.

O'REILLY: Yeah, but he didn't lie, he was misinformed by - all of those investigations come to the same conclusion, that's not a lie.

MOORE: uh huh, so in other words if I told you right now that nothing was going on down here on the stage that would not be a lie?


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there was a lot more to that part of the discussion.

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