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Why would anyone really think God exists? ... or even believe in Religion?

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Trauma-san:
because I think it was well written, and applies to the comments written after I wrote it.  Peace~

Don Jacob:

--- Quote from: Tom Gotti on August 04, 2004, 10:46:16 AM ---religion does not promise a better life.  It says if you live a good life an follow your goin to heaven.  But it dont say that if you follow the religion your life will be better on earth.

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mine does and so does a lot of others
my mom always quote this bible quote that says "he who delights himself in the lord will be blessed with the desires of your heart" or something like that


also, to the darweenies, i don't just believe in god just because of the begining of the earth theory i (we) have, there's a lot of things that's happened in my life where you go hey that's got to be god. In my opinion god is like love...if you havn't felt it , it's no wonder you won't believe in it.

infinite59:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on August 03, 2004, 08:57:54 AM ---all you believers, tell me. I dont get it.

I of course know why religion and stuff exists and why some ppl believe in it, but I want to hear your version.

I opened this topic in order to stop the offtopic-ness in several other topics in which we went off-topic starting to debate this ^topic.

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From what I've read of you, you sound like an atheist, you don't want any b.s., you just want what's real.

I used to be an atheist.  My family is all Christian, but it all sounded fake and made up, and unrealistic, so at age 12 I became an atheist.  Then, 6 years later at age 18, I converted to Islam.  Why the change?   Let me explain how it happened.

My girlfriend moved away when I was 14 years old.  She was the only girl I'd ever loved.  She was my whole life.  I was heartbroken, sad, and depressed.  I still remember the day after she left, when an overwhelming pain took over my chest and stomach, I thought it was temporary but it never went away.  I had to struggle to get over the pain of her being gone, so I began to search long and hard for knoweldge on self-improvement and discipline.  After 4 years of unsuccesful experimenting and trial and error, I finally came across The Holy Qu'ran.  I had no plans of being a Muslim, or anything of the sort.  I just went and quickly scribbled down a verse of the Qu'ran to see if it would help keep me focused at work, give me something else to think about besides my boring, monotonous work.  The verse went like this...

"How can ye reject
The faith in Allah?--Seeing that ye were without life,
And he gave you life;
Then will He cause you to die,
And will again bring you to life;
And again to Him will ye return."

Next thing I knew, that same night, I decided to submit to the will of the Creator (Allah) and become Muslim.

I was the most undisciplined and disbelieving person you would have ever met.  Yet, as the months began to pass by, and as my five daily prayers began to sink deep into my consciousness, and as the fasting, the reading, the worshipping, the giving, the sacrificing, the practice of Islam began to take hold in my life, I found myself irrevocably changed and liberated from whatever demons had been suppressing my inner spirit for so many years.  Your really biulding yourself with Islam.  Every year you advance much further ahead.  You advance in stages and achieve things far beyond your imagination.  You treat yourself and other people differently, and your whole daily life is put into perfect order.

Now, why was I able to accept the Qu'ran, back when I was an atheist?  Read it and you will quickly find out.  It is not some religion people believe in blindly.  Faith in Islam, comes through knowledge and conviction.  The Qu'ran is a very critical and questioning book itself.  The Noble Qu'ran doesn't teach belief in any men as being supernatural, it only teaches us how to worship and pray to the Creator (Allah), and live in accordance to his will. 

infinite59:

--- Quote from: Adon on August 03, 2004, 11:21:24 AM ---To me, being Atheist is the same as being Religious.  Both spend time thinking and acting about god(s); whether positively or negatively.  It's all the same to me. 


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Good point.  There was one guy who requested to be burried in Harley Davidson logo's!  That's how his body is going to lay for eternity!  People set up money, women, and other hobbies, as God's.  They live for them, and that is their religion.  Your "religion" is your "way of life".  Money could be someone's religion.  If your life revolves around money, if you love money, if you live for money, if you would do anything to aquire an excess amount of it, then "money" is your "religion".

Machiavelli:
Doesnt Islam beileve in Jesus?

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