Do you believe rap will ever be as good as it used to be?

[teecee]

So M Dogg ,u say classic is a hard word to throw around, yet you call The Eminem Show a classic???  His worst album a classic?  Man, you'd take that over tribe's first two, fugees score, dogg food.............and another thing, the fix was nice but it didnt even get close to touching the diary.......i agree with you on kanye (i think, too early to tell right now)

while i do acknowledge eminem has some great songs, he doesnt have ANY classics, and most people will admit this.  If anything, his MMLP or Slim shady were closest........i could possibly see them as classics.  But Eminem show? most considered that his worst album........

[f0n|{sta]

it never will be like back in the 9o's

[gFuNkA]

imo it could be as good as it was in the 90´s...if all the right artists would hook up together in one studio (dre, daz, warren g, quik etc)...sharing their talent to bring us and the west something groundbreaking new.

[M Dogg™]

So M Dogg ,u say classic is a hard word to throw around, yet you call The Eminem Show a classic???  His worst album a classic?  Man, you'd take that over tribe's first two, fugees score, dogg food.............and another thing, the fix was nice but it didnt even get close to touching the diary.......i agree with you on kanye (i think, too early to tell right now)

while i do acknowledge eminem has some great songs, he doesnt have ANY classics, and most people will admit this.  If anything, his MMLP or Slim shady were closest........i could possibly see them as classics.  But Eminem show? most considered that his worst album........

ah shit... i forgot about Tribe's first too. I didn't get into 1995, but only the Fugee's was a classic, Dogg Food was a good solid album, but not a classic. New York New York was a classic song, and a couple other tracks, but the album as a whole, not a classic.

I think Eminem Show was his best album, in that he showed growth, and maturity. Marshall Mathers LP was the best produced album by far, but the shock rap was annoying, and the Slim Shady LP was the closest I'd say, but replay value lacked more than the other CDs. The Eminem Show was his most personal album. I mean Sing For the Moment, and Square Dance, and Till I Collaps, I'd say the Eminem Show is his best album. Now I don't know if I'd take it over the Fugees, or Tribe, but I will say I thought it was closer to classic than Dogg Food.

Now you guys are thinking westcoast, and that's cool, this is a westcoast board, and I'd take a good westcoast era over anyother era. Give me the early 90's, when Dre, Eazy, Cube, Snoop, 2Pac, 4-Tay, Too $hort, Quik, Eiht, 2nd II None, Digital Underground, Coolio, and the rest of the west like Ahmad and Skee-Lo were dropping westcoast hits. But to say rap is not as good is not fair. The south right now is the main region. Back in the day it was the east, then the west, then the east again, now the south, in a while it'll be the east again, and then who knows, the mid-west? back to the west? back to the south? Rap is starting to do cycles, which happens to every culture. So we'll see where it takes us. But to say rap is not as good is not fair. Maybe rap is not as good on the radio to you guys, but then again, rap was never great on the radio unless you get a really good station. Radio is not as good, it's not a reflection on rap, that's a reflection on radio. Always has been, always will be. we'll see what comes out, right now people don't like laid back westcoast. I played some Knoc-Turn'al and some Shade Sheist at a dance, and people got mad. I played some unheard Lil' Jon at the time, and they got all happy, and asked how I got the new songs. (I was a college radio DJ, we had shit like 3 months before it was ever heard on the radio) so it's the people that want southern music, so it's not rap, it's not the artist, it's the people. I thought at the time Money Owners would get shit poppin', and Bad Intentions would get some noise, but the only ones that like that were the weed smokers. The rest wanted Lil' Jon. So,don't knock the art, knock what the people buy.

[Storm]

All you need is one guy to change the game like Dre did and it can be as good as it used to be.  I wish Quik became more popular cause he could have done a lot more than he did.  These days not many people try to change the game and bring it to another level, most just try to make money. peace.

[R-Tistic]

I think the subject should be changed to "Do you believe west coast rap will ever be as good as it used to be?"

M Dogg said a lot of what I would have said. It is very true that fans from the 80s saw rap as bein dead in 93-96 which is when younger fans like me thought it was at a peak. Now it's just a coming of age for us. If you went down south, people definitely would not have anything negative to say about rap. Many of them really do think it is at it's peak right now, and for what they like and what they grew up on, you can't really be mad. I just think many people on this board are frustrated with how things have been going, and it's giving them a negative additude on rap. Personally, I think the west definitely has potential to be as good as it used to, and also, I think rap is still strong despite all the BS goin on in it. It would be an insult to many east coast rap fans to say that there haven't been any classic albums since the 90s. For people who aren't west coast fans, many believe that Blueprint, Get rich or die trying, the love below, any one of Em's albums, Scarface, Kanye, and many more albums are classic; and many believe these albums are better than everything that we consider classic.

[::Mr. Hahn::]

I believe great things are always compared to its counterpart from the past. This howver is unfair and often hard to judge because of the context in which the literature was written/performed in, differs to that of today.

Lets just say, some things change for the better....and some....dont.

[Mr. RuthlessG]

One Word: No.