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The Underground In 2004

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Ras Kass' Toothpick:
I don't think anymore listens to that Madvillain will help.  I deleted it after two and a half listens anyway.  The format is horrible, it sounds like a promo/snippet sampler or something like that with those short, one verse songs.  He's too boring an MC for me, his delivery is terrible.  I didn't notice anything good about Operation Doomsday but I decided to give him another shot with this but I guess he's just gonna get labeled as another nerd rapper I can't get into.

I looked for RJD2's Since We Last Spoke but I could never find it on mIRC.  I liked Deadringer, is it similar to that?  With a few songs with MCs and the rest instrumentals?


Royce Da 5'9" has been in "the commercial world" for sure and he has been signed to a major.


I consider an underground artist someone who a hip-hop head wouldn't necessarily know.  If you're into hip-hop you should know Gangstarr, Masta Killa or Canibus  (so they're "mainstream hip-hop") but I wouldn't EXPECT you to know Saigon, Little Brother or Ill Bill (so they're "underground hip-hop").

I`m Wayne Brady bitch!:
best rap - album so far is Royce da 5`9 - Death is certain in my opinion , masta ace was also verry good .

smartass:
mf doom aint even really underground, either. its just his sound. he was with kmd in the 80s. hes just like ace, an old school rapper that new cats dont really check for. grimm was always 10x better than him on the mic. too bad he was shot up and has to live the rest of his life in a wheel chair. i think that cat could've really been somethin. "aiyyo *doom*, stick to producin!!!" black bastards and mr hood are classics 8)

Kill:

--- Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on August 17, 2004, 02:20:33 PM ---I looked for RJD2's Since We Last Spoke but I could never find it on mIRC.  I liked Deadringer, is it similar to that?  With a few songs with MCs and the rest instrumentals?

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no, not really. no mc's at all this time, one or two songs got singers on em, the rest is all instrumentals. I'd say it's even less 'conventional' than Deadringer, but it's the type of album that'll grow on you

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