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Where's the democracy in Afganistan and Iraq?
infinite59:
Who is honestly brainwashed enough to think America's policy in the Middle East is to promote democracy?
If you think America is about promoting democracy in the world, then tell me right now when their will be democracy in Iraq and Afganistan. And I'm not talking about the kind of democracy they are trying to create in Afganistan where only 16% of the people are even registered to vote. Wait a second... we don't even have democracy in America. Less than half of American's actually vote, and Gore had more votes anyway.
First, America would have to establish a real democracy at home before we can force people to do it anywhere else.
And I want someone to tell me right now, a date, of when Iraq and Afganistan will have democracy. Say it right now. 1 year? 5 years? 10 years? When. Put it right here.
The US policy was never about democracy, and any sensible person knows this. Al-Sadr is the most popular figure in Iraq. If it was really about democracy, a government that represents the will of the people, Al-Sadr would be the president of Iraq, or atleast the mayor of his city, instead he's the most wanted man in Iraq.
America's foriegn policy has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with power, money, polotics, control, imperialism, globalization, oil, and Isreal.
mauzip:
Don't talk shit dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. You sound like you support Al-Sadr.
infinite59:
--- Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 01:16:51 PM ---Don't talk shit dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. You sound like you support Al-Sadr.
--- End quote ---
Maybe your the one who doesn't know what your talking about. Do you even know who Al-Sadr is? Or what he stands for? Or do you just believe anything that an anchor man with a nice suit and a good haircutt says on CNN? The prophet Muhammad (salla alayhi wa salaam) said that the rescue for the ignorant is the question. Next time, before you speak without your inner apartments, go ahead and ask a question, if you don't know anything about the person you are speaking about.
Al Sadr's family stood up to Sadaam Hussien. They were subsequently tortured by Hussien. He has had family members killed and totured by Sadaam Hussien. When America overthrew Hussien and began it's current occupation of Iraq, if your one who believes everything you see on TV, you would have thought Al-Sadr would have been celebrating. That is hardly the case. He knew better than that. Al Sadr was quoted as saying, "The little serpent is out (Hussien), and the big serpent is in (America)."
That statement says it all. The little serpent is out, and the big serpent is in. Hussien severly oppressed Al-Sadr and Iraqi Shiites, but America had been preventing Iraq from getting basic resources for living, through the use of punishing sanctions, that punished Iraqi people severly for ten years. Upon invading and occupying Iraq, America has been oppressing, torturing and murdering Iraqi's at a new, unprecedented level (more than Hussien ever did). So the struggle continues for Sadr. He wants freedom for his people. He is fighting for Iraqi's to have control of their land, of their resources, and their freedom. He is fighting against oppression and occupation from a foriegn country that has killed 10's of thousands of his people and stole billions in Iraqi resources.
42:41 Noble Qu'ran: "Those who fight when oppressed incur no anger, but Allah shall surely perish the oppressor."[/i]
mauzip:
Okay, so Al-Sadr is a great man because he was against Saddam. Makes sense.
infinite59:
--- Quote from: All Mauzip Wants To Do Is RELAX... on August 21, 2004, 01:46:29 PM ---Okay, so Al-Sadr is a great man because he was against Saddam. Makes sense.
--- End quote ---
I was pointing out that Al-Sadr's whole life and family history has been submerged in struggle.
Hussien started out as a puppet of the United States government. The United States gave him weapons to wage war on Shiites Muslims in Iran and Shiites within his own country. Hussien ran a secular government and he suppressed Iraqi Shiites.
Once again, this man's whole life and family history has been a struggle. This man dresses in the same clothes that he will wear in the grave, because he knows he will be there soon. He is not doing this for money, power, or wealth. He is sacrificing his life to fight against oppression. Everyone knows he will be dead very soon.
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