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Military records support Kerry's account of Vietnam service
infinite59:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 21, 2004, 05:30:42 PM ---I am against the Iraq War, but in 30 years, if any of the soldiers runs for public office, I would look at service as a plus in times of war, because if we have a war time like Bush says, I think it is better to have someone who has served in war, because they know war, and can relate to the soldiers. The soldiers need someone who would lead them into another Vietnam. Vietnam was a war that we fought for the south, but in the end we lost. I don't see myself agreeing with it back in the 60's, but I don't hold that against the soldiers, in fact I hold that as a plus because the soldiers were willing to put their lives on the line for our country, like my father, and that is something have shown I am not willing to do, so it should matter if a person who runs does such a thing. Someone like Clinton, and Bush, yeah, they won elections, but in time of war, military time I think is very important.
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MDogg. I got respect for you. Just asking a question. As a Christian, how can you "hold it as a plus" the killing of the North Vietnamese, considering they had never attacked or done anything to any American's? Are you saying you put the flag of your country above the Cross?
infinite59:
--- Quote from: rampant on August 21, 2004, 04:34:32 PM ---Although i'm honestly tired of hearing about his war record, he does have a honorable record. Granted getting purple hearts is pointless, the stars are worth recieving. On the other hand, i dont think you should base a vote by how he served during war. Clinton was an example that you shouldnt base your vote on their military record (bush for that fact).
I wouldnt go far in saying the vietnam war was morally wrong, but it was a lost cause. The north eventually took over the south when we pulled out anyway.
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How can you say the Vietnam war wasn't morally wrong? We laid siege on a country and people that had never attacked or done anything to us!
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 21, 2004, 07:06:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 21, 2004, 05:30:42 PM ---I am against the Iraq War, but in 30 years, if any of the soldiers runs for public office, I would look at service as a plus in times of war, because if we have a war time like Bush says, I think it is better to have someone who has served in war, because they know war, and can relate to the soldiers. The soldiers need someone who would lead them into another Vietnam. Vietnam was a war that we fought for the south, but in the end we lost. I don't see myself agreeing with it back in the 60's, but I don't hold that against the soldiers, in fact I hold that as a plus because the soldiers were willing to put their lives on the line for our country, like my father, and that is something have shown I am not willing to do, so it should matter if a person who runs does such a thing. Someone like Clinton, and Bush, yeah, they won elections, but in time of war, military time I think is very important.
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MDogg. I got respect for you. Just asking a question. As a Christian, how can you "hold it as a plus" the killing of the North Vietnamese, considering they had never attacked or done anything to any American's? Are you saying you put the flag of your country above the Cross?
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I don't look at killing at all as a plus. But, I think someone that has been through war, any war, for his country is better suited to determain if we should go to war or not, as oppose to someone who does not know what war is like, and uses war as a political tool. Someone like John F. Kennedy, who was a World War II hero, had been through war, managed to aviod a war with Cuba because he knew the impact of war. Someone like John Kerry, he served in Vietnam, and then came back and protested the war. He saw war, he served his country, and then came to the conclusion that infact the war in Vietnam was wrong, and protested it. I see that as a plus, as oppose to a person that has never seen war, and then calls himself a wartime president, not knowing the mess he is putting the soldiers he leads into.
And I don't put no form of anything over the cross. I seperate what goes on in government and what goes on in religion. My father got married to my mother in Las Vegas, and they came back to California and went to the Catholic church, and the priest flat out said, the church does not recognize your marriage. That tells me right there, that what the government does, does not concern the church, therefore does not concern me. I take religion as I am God's soldier, and my job is to help carry the religion, and when people ask, I pray they find the truth. I know only two things in life that are true, God exist, and I am not God. I am still looking for the whole truth myself, so I pray for others. But what the government does, since we live in a sort of democracy, I vote the way I feel the government should be. But when things like homosexual marriage, and abortians, I don't worry about them, because the church does not recognize them therefore I don't recognize them. The choices those people made are up to them and God, and I pray for their forgiveness. Honestly, I put the church in higher regards than the government.
Machiavelli:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 21, 2004, 05:30:42 PM ---I am against the Iraq War, but in 30 years, if any of the soldiers runs for public office, I would look at service as a plus in times of war, because if we have a war time like Bush says, I think it is better to have someone who has served in war, because they know war, and can relate to the soldiers. The soldiers need someone who would lead them into another Vietnam. Vietnam was a war that we fought for the south, but in the end we lost. I don't see myself agreeing with it back in the 60's, but I don't hold that against the soldiers, in fact I hold that as a plus because the soldiers were willing to put their lives on the line for our country, like my father, and that is something have shown I am not willing to do, so it should matter if a person who runs does such a thing. Someone like Clinton, and Bush, yeah, they won elections, but in time of war, military time I think is very important.
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Thats why we got Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield, and all of our gererals. When it comes to War and Terriosm, we got some tough mutherfuckers on the adminstration.
eS El Duque:
--- Quote from: Machiavelli on August 27, 2004, 06:30:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on August 21, 2004, 05:30:42 PM ---I am against the Iraq War, but in 30 years, if any of the soldiers runs for public office, I would look at service as a plus in times of war, because if we have a war time like Bush says, I think it is better to have someone who has served in war, because they know war, and can relate to the soldiers. The soldiers need someone who would lead them into another Vietnam. Vietnam was a war that we fought for the south, but in the end we lost. I don't see myself agreeing with it back in the 60's, but I don't hold that against the soldiers, in fact I hold that as a plus because the soldiers were willing to put their lives on the line for our country, like my father, and that is something have shown I am not willing to do, so it should matter if a person who runs does such a thing. Someone like Clinton, and Bush, yeah, they won elections, but in time of war, military time I think is very important.
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Thats why we got Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfield, and all of our gererals. When it comes to War and Terriosm, we got some tough mutherfuckers on the adminstration.
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and they did a swell job!
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