Lifestyle > Train of Thought
A poll just out of curiosity...
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
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--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 25, 2004, 02:33:45 PM ---
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--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 25, 2004, 03:24:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on August 24, 2004, 11:32:00 AM ---Yeah I figured you were but some may have taken it literally. There is a large Gay community here though. They have this big parade every year. But it isn't that big. I've lived here 22 years and I don't know one openly gay person, personally. There are a lot of bisexual girls here and there that I know but I think it's a phase they go through. The media shows lesbianism as being a lot cooler than homosexuality. I know a lot of girls that have tried it or at the very least thought about doing it. I can personally say it was never on any of my to do lists. I'm not a homophobe but I can't control th cringe in my spine evertime I think about it.
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I believe all (or at least most) girls in the world are bisexual; some just keep to themselves... I've been able to get that out of almost every girl I've ever known. 8)
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When you say that do you mean you've gotten them to tell you they are, or you've gotten them to perform acts of lesbianism? Big difference. Personally, to each his own (or her own in this case), but I always felt it has a lot to do with how society and the media present it. If TV and movies over the next 25 years were to portray homo-erotic behaviour between two guys as cool or arousing, I'd bet that you'd see a lot of guys try it out of curiosity. Girls see that all the time in commercials and movies. It becomes acceptable. The "all men are dogs" theory helps them get closer. I actually know one girl that puposely used that to fuck other girls. She was like an evil demon ruining the lives of young girls everywhere. Seriously though, she didn't want to pursue a lengthy relationship or anything, she had a boyfriend. She just didn't like being treated as inferior so she took it upon herself to be the loser guy that goes around fucking girls and then never seeing them again. I guess it gave her power. It turned around on her though. One girl became obsessed with her and it turned into this whole stalking scenario. I think it's still going on. Serves her right.
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I don't even think it's a media thing anymore, even thought the media does play a role in female bisexuality...If you just see girls on the streets, they're always checking out other girls...It comes natural. The way girls are portrayed as beautiful and desirable in our society makes other girls appreciate and want their beauty in more ways than one...Two girls will and always has been a sexy and delicate thing...Two big/hairy men on top of eachother is viewed as disgusting and unsexy...It's just something I've learned from experience with girls.
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What I'm trying to say is that if movies and shit started doing shit like a sex scenes with two guys, and the girl in the movie getting aroused, I think it could start influencing the younger audience. Little boys well before hitting puberty become accustom to seeing two girls on one guy as a fantasy. Young girls don't see two guys on one girl, at least not in a positive light. It's usually a rape scene, not a sex scene. If there was a movie with Halle Berry having a threesome with Brad Pitt and Denzel Washington today it would not be seen as a complete fantasy for all girls, just like a 3 way with Humphrey Bogart fucking Greta Garbo and Ingrid Bergman 65 years ago would have been offensive to a lot of people, but over time it would catch on and become accepted by the female mind as something that is sexy. We may not see this as straight guys because when we see Brad Pitt topless or naked it doesn't mean shit to us, but to a girl that's a different story. I'm not going by on what I've told, I'm trying to logically figure it out. I could very well be wrong, but I don't exactly believe everthing I'm told by girls on what they think of things, because they lie to guys all the time. And people in general usually don't express what they truly feel, they say what thay think would be the best answer.
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I don't think girls just say what guys like to hear, because most of the girls I've known have had trouble admitting to themselves and to other people that they're bi...I dunno, I guess it's just a theory of mine which I strongly believe in.
pappy:
only on the dubcc a thread about diversity can turn into a thread about woman being bi-sexual lol.
Shallow:
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I think it started when I tried to explain how the Toronto gay population wasn't as big as it seemed. The NIK claimed that all girls are bisexual, and it all went from there.
I still think it stems from society. The media makes it cool aand the playful nature in with each other makes it acceptable. I general girls are more affectionate with each other. Guys aren't because it isn't manly, but if it were seen as manly then I bet we'd see a lot more guys experimenting then we do now. That's my view on it anyway. Likw I said before, I could be wrong. Oh and as for what girls say NIK, c'mon man they're always ful of secrets and lies. Down right goddamn confusing most of hte time. I've seen girls act the exact same way around a guy they really like and want as they do a guy they hate and want to get rid of. From what I understand,they act like assholes to guys they like to figure out if the guy will run off easily or if he'll put in effort and they act like assholes around guys they hate to keep them away. How the fuck is anybody supposed to know which one it is with them? I'm not saying it's all girls, some are honest and tell it like it is, and some are just sluts and'll fuck whatever, but I have seen a lot of cases like the one I mentioned. Of course since leaving high school a few years ago I've seen less and less of this insane behaviour, but when I worked at a high school as an assistant teacher last year and the year before I saw it all again.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
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I think it started when I tried to explain how the Toronto gay population wasn't as big as it seemed. The NIK claimed that all girls are bisexual, and it all went from there.
I still think it stems from society. The media makes it cool aand the playful nature in with each other makes it acceptable. I general girls are more affectionate with each other. Guys aren't because it isn't manly, but if it were seen as manly then I bet we'd see a lot more guys experimenting then we do now. That's my view on it anyway. Likw I said before, I could be wrong. Oh and as for what girls say NIK, c'mon man they're always ful of secrets and lies. Down right goddamn confusing most of hte time. I've seen girls act the exact same way around a guy they really like and want as they do a guy they hate and want to get rid of. From what I understand,they act like assholes to guys they like to figure out if the guy will run off easily or if he'll put in effort and they act like assholes around guys they hate to keep them away. How the fuck is anybody supposed to know which one it is with them? I'm not saying it's all girls, some are honest and tell it like it is, and some are just sluts and'll fuck whatever, but I have seen a lot of cases like the one I mentioned. Of course since leaving high school a few years ago I've seen less and less of this insane behaviour, but when I worked at a high school as an assistant teacher last year and the year before I saw it all again.
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I don't associate with those types of females...The females I associate with are open, honest, and nice...If not, I don't give them a second chance. I guess, like you said, if male homosexuality was accepted, then we'd see a lot more guys doing gay stuff, and maybe even enjoying it. But since it's not like that, guys don't fantasize about guys, while girls do fantasize about girls, naturally...I guess everyone is born bisexual, and develop a sexual preference based on what is accepted, and what the media shows as sexy and right...That's why I believe all (or most) girls today are bisexual, and I don't think anything can change my mind about that.
7even:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 26, 2004, 03:32:39 PM ---
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I think it started when I tried to explain how the Toronto gay population wasn't as big as it seemed. The NIK claimed that all girls are bisexual, and it all went from there.
I still think it stems from society. The media makes it cool aand the playful nature in with each other makes it acceptable. I general girls are more affectionate with each other. Guys aren't because it isn't manly, but if it were seen as manly then I bet we'd see a lot more guys experimenting then we do now. That's my view on it anyway. Likw I said before, I could be wrong. Oh and as for what girls say NIK, c'mon man they're always ful of secrets and lies. Down right goddamn confusing most of hte time. I've seen girls act the exact same way around a guy they really like and want as they do a guy they hate and want to get rid of. From what I understand,they act like assholes to guys they like to figure out if the guy will run off easily or if he'll put in effort and they act like assholes around guys they hate to keep them away. How the fuck is anybody supposed to know which one it is with them? I'm not saying it's all girls, some are honest and tell it like it is, and some are just sluts and'll fuck whatever, but I have seen a lot of cases like the one I mentioned. Of course since leaving high school a few years ago I've seen less and less of this insane behaviour, but when I worked at a high school as an assistant teacher last year and the year before I saw it all again.
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I don't associate with those types of females...The females I associate with are open, honest, and nice...If not, I don't give them a second chance. I guess, like you said, if male homosexuality was accepted, then we'd see a lot more guys doing gay stuff, and maybe even enjoying it. But since it's not like that, guys don't fantasize about guys, while girls do fantasize about girls, naturally...I guess everyone is born bisexual, and develop a sexual preference based on what is accepted, and what the media shows as sexy and right...That's why I believe all (or most) girls today are bisexual, and I don't think anything can change my mind about that.
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No I have to disagree with you on that one I think you take it way to far. Many girls today fantasize about kissing (or more) other girls - yes, Im good with that. Maybe they also are potentially bisexual. Because of media and stuff, right.
But:
I cant imagine everybody being born bisexual and going after what's common and accepted. No, this cant be. The meaning of life is keeping your race alive. In our case, the human race. And you simply cant do it if you only have sex with people the same sex as you are. If you take it to the extreme, our race would die out. And this cant be the principe a race is based on. We are supposed to have Sex with women, and women are supposed to have Sex with Men. Only thing is, sometimes their minds work different - like with ppl who fuck their sister, which is also not supposed to be (that's why it doesnt really work), just a little more drastic. It's simply not in the instinct of a living being to make out with partners of the same gender. But humans have always been kinda special animals.
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