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3 Reasons why Mase is going to sell out in stores.....
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 26, 2004, 09:30:25 PM ---^^Damn dudes, he's just speaking his mind.
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And we're just speaking ours.
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 26, 2004, 04:52:23 AM ---First of all, if you read my posts, I haven't said anything bad about Mase. All that I have said is that the lifestyle of most Christians is no different than the lifestyle and attitudes of non-believers. That Christianity has been comprimised and dilluted in this country. His video to me still looked like it was celebrating materialism (cars, clothes) and sex (beautiful women dancing and singing, half dressed).
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You cant really argue with that.
NobodyButMe:
--- Quote from: The Iceman a.k.a. Sikotic on August 28, 2004, 01:42:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 26, 2004, 04:52:23 AM ---First of all, if you read my posts, I haven't said anything bad about Mase. All that I have said is that the lifestyle of most Christians is no different than the lifestyle and attitudes of non-believers. That Christianity has been comprimised and dilluted in this country. His video to me still looked like it was celebrating materialism (cars, clothes) and sex (beautiful women dancing and singing, half dressed).
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You cant really argue with that.
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you can easily argue with it by referencing the muslim culture and how the main culprits of terrorism in western culture are muslim.
i think the thing that makes people want to argue with this guy Hajj is that his posts rarely have anything to do with music. he uses music as his stepping stone to talk about what he really wants to talk about and that's his fucking religion. and that pisses us off b/c we don't want to hear it. we come in to bullshit about music and he always, (not sometime -, but ALWAYS) has to come in preaching about his 'faith.'
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: JTPlatnum on August 28, 2004, 02:08:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Iceman a.k.a. Sikotic on August 28, 2004, 01:42:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on August 26, 2004, 04:52:23 AM ---First of all, if you read my posts, I haven't said anything bad about Mase. All that I have said is that the lifestyle of most Christians is no different than the lifestyle and attitudes of non-believers. That Christianity has been comprimised and dilluted in this country. His video to me still looked like it was celebrating materialism (cars, clothes) and sex (beautiful women dancing and singing, half dressed).
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You cant really argue with that.
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you can easily argue with it by referencing the muslim culture and how the main culprits of terrorism in western culture are muslim.
i think the thing that makes people want to argue with this guy Hajj is that his posts rarely have anything to do with music. he uses music as his stepping stone to talk about what he really wants to talk about and that's his fucking religion. and that pisses us off b/c we don't want to hear it. we come in to bullshit about music and he always, (not sometime -, but ALWAYS) has to come in preaching about his 'faith.'
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No, you can;t argue with that because what he said about a vast majority of Christianity in America is true. Hypocritical because the same thing happens in Islam, yes, but a false statement, no.
NobodyButMe:
^^^ well it depends on how you look at it. if you ask a christian, he's going to say that it's not true at all. and if you ask a non-christian, he'll tell you it's true. opinions are subjective to who you are and what you believe. so what he said about christianity has a lot to do with his 'faith' in islam. if you asked mase or creflo dollar or billy grahm, i bet they'd say the exact opposite as what hajj said.
and, being an ex-christian, i can tell you that a big part of christian culture is about being a part of the world, but not fully. christianity is trying to reach the masses by preaching and being a part of american and 'non-believer' culture. look at POD. these guys go against what everything in fundamentalist christianity says. but they're christians and probably reach more people than, say, dc talk ever did.
my point being, christianity in this country is ABOUT fitting in to the 'non-believer' culture, as they see it reaches 'non-christians' and christians alike. christianity is a faith that must be shown to the world and the only way they see it will be shown is if they do it in a 'non-christian' way so that 'non-christians' will pay attention to it. the strategy of christianity is to reach the common man and the way to reach the common man is to do it in a common way. and that's in a 'non-believers' world.
so yeah, essentially, what hajj said about the "lifestyle" of christians being no different than the lifestyle of non-believers is true - if you look at it on a surface point of view; my point is, when you look a little deeper than the surface, and see how these christians live and what they do behind closed doors is their own hidden agenda and their own strategy of reaching 'non-believers.' and they're different people at home and in groups (i know because i was a christian).
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