are non-americans allowed in the NBA?

[M Dogg™]

One thing I think that hurts the NBA is the fact that players don't even go to college anymore. In high school, you're a start player that plays one on one, and you don't learn to use your team. Now if they go to college, they will have to learn to play on a team, and not just one year, but the should at least play 3. Shaq played 3 years college ball and became one of the best passing centers around. Kobe grew up playing European ball, so his team skillz were better at 18 than many NBA players. He just needs to check the ego. Iverson played a couple years college, and it took him forever to get the team game. Team basketball should be taught any place 5 on 5 basketball is played. I remember getting mad, 'cause the old ass Utah Jazz used to beat everyone using a pick and roll. The pick and roll is very simple, very elementry team basketball, but no one knew how to beat it. I will say this though about the NBA today. Defense is the best it's ever been. I have never seen players with the defensive skills as today. Every good all-star caliber player has great defense, except maybe Allen Iverson, but he can stick people too. If our team can get more practice as a team, we can win off of defense alone. Many of todays street players take as much pride with defense as offense because they don't want to be made  fool in front of everybody. We can work off of some defense. It's just a matter of checking egos at the door and developing role players. I mean, the team did well, but even in street ball you have rebounders, you have passers, just they are not taught as technical sound as a gym taught player. Onething that I always noticed that helped out our local players was basketball camp. All our great high school players went to basketball camps put on by NBA players. Like Cedric Ceballos and Sean Rooks used to run camps in San Bernardino, now I don't think anyone does, but if Bryon Russell decided to do that for his hometown, and oneday Tyson Chandler, the girl Miller, she did drills for girl's basketball once, and that went over well. If we can get our old school players to get camps for the kids to learn real ball, and they'll go because it's an NBA player from around here, then I think that'll help out the street ball system. On many levels our game can be helped, it's not as bad as everyone would make it out to be.

[·SiNiStEr·]

7even: shake em off, for the most part your tellin the truth, there are a few exceptions but most black people play the one man game, most white guys play the team game, ive been playin my whole life in different areas with different demographies and thats just how it is, its not insulting anyone, hes just stating the truth yall need to get off his nuts..

White boy: 7even sayin that dont make him rascist, its the truth, there are exceptions but, as i said, hes just statin the truth

Antonio: quit lickin your own jock dude, perfect player lmao.. u still postin here so obviously you aint doin a whole lot with your b-ball career.. fuck off

NIK: why you always so critical foo lol, white boy gave about 400% more names than anyone did

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[7even]

What I said was of course not for EVERY black baller and EVERY white baller in the world, cmon, I dont have to add this. That's obvious. Of course I generalize saying what I said. Of course it also depends where you grow up and how you are raised, god damn it.

^But that doesnt make it untrue. I see it here where I come from, and I bet 10000 Bucks that it's big time more obvious/frequent in the US.

And that's one of the reasons why the US isnt the threat in international basketball it used to be, love it or hate it. They cant shoot from beyond the arc, cause - how is that cool? Fuck that, 3pt shooting makes you look like a white nerd like Bird. You rather make some fancy crossovers and go for that artistic lay-up like Iverson, too bad you miss the lay-up cause you put all the effort in the unnecessary dribbling... that looked soooo cooool though... or if youre tall, why not doin a dunk although youll get more likely blocked or even miss it.

[white Boy]

^ Nik, i just got it off NBA.com... so wen they update it, i will
and 7even... w/e think wat u want...

[eS El Duque]

A lot of it has to due where you grew up too.  A white kid growing up in an urban area is goin try an play the ball a black kid in the park is playing.  I think a lot of it has to do where you grow up 2.

Yeah, obviously. But in Europe people start playing bball in a gym, 3 times a week, with minibasket and shit. No playground, but REGULAR basketball. In the States, most of the people start playing bball in the street, close to their home, or at the school, where there's a rim on the wall, and they can shoot or play 1 on 1, or 3 on 3. 3 on 3 KILLS basketball. When you raise up playing 3 on 3, you cant play 5 on 5 no more!! Cause playing 3 on 3 means you have to outscore your opponent, going always 1 on 1 or playing only with your body. You aint double-teamed. Opponents cant play zone defence. They cant make pick n rolls or schemes. 3 on 3 it's just who has more skills wins. That's totally a different concept. In Europe you raise up in a gym with a team. And you only play 5 on 5. It's a team! Team concept.

Then americans move to the playgrounds. Then they go to school (college-Uni) and they start to play bball in a team for the first time there.

I started playing in a real team, in a gym and everything when i was 5. FIVE. I grew up in a gym, playing schemes till i was 9 years old, using pick n roll's till i was 12, playing zone pressure since i was 14. When i was 18, i was totally mature as a player, knowing the game, all the schemes, how to defend on zone, how to make lay-ups with the left hand and not being blocked, how to use a pick n roll, how to shoot from 3pts, how to make a FT (Italy had the best percentace from FT and 3pts in the Olympic tournment), etc.

Feel me? At 18 i was a PERFECT player.

Only difference between me as a 18 years old player and a 18 years old black guy is that the black guy plays OVER the rim and i play UNDER the rim. I dunk, but i've never dunked in an official game. Why? Cause a lay-up is safer. And if i miss a dunk, my coach forces me to sit on the bench for 3 games! You know what i mean? That's the difference! People in the States starts to play in a gym, in a team and with a real coach when they 17-18. When i'm 17-18, i can teach basketball.

You know how fuckin stupid you sound Antonio? You think all the kids in America don't play highschool/middle--school/elementry ball before going to college?

"People in the States starts to play in a gym, in a team and with a real coach when they 17-18. When i'm 17-18, i can teach basketball."

Four words to describe what you just said, "Are you fuckin stupid?"

[Nutty]

I agree w/ Ants, there's a difference between streetball & teamball, but that doesn't necessarily mean a player is better than another bcoz they play either street or teamball. Some ppl are more gifted than others. It's not impossible to make the transition between streetball & teamball, it's how most ppl started...............using a rubbish bin............plastic boxes nailed to the wall,  attaching a board to a netball hoop.........or marking a box on the wall.....no hoop whatsoever. Dun matter how good u are, w/ practice, any1 can move from streetball to teamball.

I dun think the US team weren't as bad as ppl said they were. Sure they were sloppy & lacked team play in parts of games, but they didn't have many games together, w/ all their faults, they still managed to surprise alot of yahs & beat Spain & Lithuania in the process.

[Smoke]

Antonio: quit lickin your own jock dude, perfect player lmao.. u still postin here so obviously you aint doin a whole lot with your b-ball career.. fuck off

Man to comment on my post you have to read it and to be intelligent enought to understand it. With "a perfect player" i didnt mean an ALL-Olympic & ALL-NBA player, but a complete player, knowing a little bit of everything. Look at the Italian national team: every player knows the game. Then it doesnt necessary mean they're ALL-Olympics or ALL-NBA or NBA players.

[Smoke]

What I said was of course not for EVERY black baller and EVERY white baller in the world, cmon, I dont have to add this. That's obvious. Of course I generalize saying what I said. Of course it also depends where you grow up and how you are raised, god damn it.

[Smoke]

P.S. Me and 7 agrees with the view of basketball in Europe, so there's no need to diss. You all are from USA, so just add your point of view and maybe we all can understand it more. But dont act like you know it more than us, cause an European team arrived before USA in the last World Championships 2002 and in this Olympic Tournment 2004.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

NIK: why you always so critical foo lol, white boy gave about 400% more names than anyone did

I was just letting people know that his list was inaccurate...Some of those players don't play on the teams they are listed under anymore...That's an old list...PeACe