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Eminem's Album Release Date!!!
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Shallow on September 06, 2004, 11:26:49 AM ---Whether Personally I feel both of the previous two Eminem albums were better than Ready To Die, Me Agaist the World, Hell On Earth, 36 Chambers, and 2001. Those albums are considred by many to be classics.
^^these eminem groupies need to go.......man whether u dig the album more than those is one thing but to claim its better its both a groupie statement and bullshit........
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I'm no Eminem groupie. I don't even like hip hop too much anymore. Also, I never said that MMLP or Show were better than the above albums, I said I felt they were better, meaning I liked them better. I can justfully say that. Just like you probably feel Nas or Biggie are better than Bob Dylan, but to say eithe's lyrics are anywhere near the calibre or significance of Dylan's lyrics just plain stupid, and stupid is what I would call you. However if you said that you felt Nas more than Dylan, then I cannot dispiute that.
As for the Eminem Show, I'm talking about the Rock N Roll community (hip hop is part of Rock n Roll), not 14 year old white kids, but 25-40 men, who's race is irrelevent. Of course if the only music you listen to seriously is rap then you wouldn't understand.
The Watcher:
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--- Quote from: smartass on September 06, 2004, 08:35:19 AM ---eminem will never make a classic album. sslp will always be his best.
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He'll never make a classic album to you, but to the general music public MMLP and Eminem Show are both considred classics. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not a classic. I don't care much for Thriller, outside of a couple singles, but I would never deny that it's a classic.
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why you coppin pleas for em? when did i ever say that i didnt like those albums?...and who is this "general music public"? provide some sources, cause like jay said "we don't believe you, you need more people" a classic must have replay value...what eminem album do you still play? if you consider eminem albums personal classics, thats fine by me, but i honestly dont see how any of them could be considered classics. that word gets thrown around on here way too much. theres probably only about 20-30 real classic rap albums.
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SSLP is his best album. If any album is considered a classic of his, its that
Nutty:
Dun really care much for Eminem, but I wouldn't mind hearing some new shit from him.
lmfaaaao@ shitty first singles. Yeah man, whassup w/ all the cartoon rap singles?
Dunno about Eminem putting out classic material, but yeah, if anything, I'd consider his first being a classic album.
HIP HOP isn't Rock 'N' Roll. WTF. We're juss talking about RAP (MCing) in here, nothing about Graph, Djing or Breaking mentioned by any1. HIP HOP is a culture.
Why the fuck are u comparing Nas to Bob Dylan? U can't compare the 2 man. This is a rap forum, get yer Rock N Roll bs outta here man! 2 different genre's, 2 completely different artists.
PS. Michael Jackson has never been Rock 'N' Roll, if he was considered RNR back in the day (WTF), thas prolly bcoz the term POP wasn't invented.
Montana00:
while i dont like eminems "Poppy singles" i actually think there a brilliant idea.
Think to yourself about all of his poppy singles, My name is, without me, and the real slim shady. I know the lyrics to these songs back to front, because there so fucking over played.
But thats the brilliance. These songs get overplayed so dam much that everyone knows his new album is coming out.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Nutty on September 06, 2004, 05:36:53 PM ---
HIP HOP isn't Rock 'N' Roll. WTF. We're juss talking about RAP (MCing) in here, nothing about Graph, Djing or Breaking mentioned by any1. HIP HOP is a culture.
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Yes it is. Every apsect of Rock and Roll has it traits that make it a "culture". Punk, Metal, Folk Rock, Psychodelic, Rockabilly,or Rhythm and Blues, Hip Hop is no different, and Chuck D knew this. Whether it be the fashion, the types of drugs or alcohol, the types of instruments they played, the style of dancig that went with them, they all had these aspects that were very different from each other and made them a "culture".
--- Quote from: Nutty on September 06, 2004, 05:36:53 PM ---Why the fuck are u comparing Nas to Bob Dylan? U can't compare the 2 man. This is a rap forum, get yer Rock N Roll bs outta here man! 2 different genre's, 2 completely different artists.
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First of all this is the Outbound forum so I can talk about Dylan with out breaking any guidelines. Second, I can compare Nas and Dylan as far as lyrics are concerened. Explain to me why I can't and what makes them completely different lyrically.
--- Quote from: Nutty on September 06, 2004, 05:36:53 PM ---PS. Michael Jackson has never been Rock 'N' Roll, if he was considered RNR back in the day (WTF), thas prolly bcoz the term POP wasn't invented.
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Pop isn't a genre it's a status. It only means you're popular. The billboard pop charts have been around for very long time. If the Beatles are Rock and MJ sure as hell is.
P.S. The term King of Pop was created by Jackson himself (what a loser). It wasn't dubbed upon him. I guess he just knew he couldn't surpass Elvis in the public eye, so he pseudo created his own genre and proclaimed to be the King of that.
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