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More than 322 dead, (more than 155 kids) after terror attack in Russia
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Immortal on September 02, 2004, 04:19:58 PM ---Man im tryin to be as neutral in this shit as possible, but if i were Putin, Id give these Chechesns their land and be done with it already and end this stupid war. THey been living in it for ages and if they want it so badly that they are willing to blow up peeps and take hostages, etc...then hell yes give it to them, be the bigger man. All this could so easily have been avoided...
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Immortal: I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna rape your woman, and kill your kids, and then burn the place down with their bodies locked inside....
Unless you give me 1000 dollars in my paypal account. Come on. Be the bigger man.
Conclusion: Your logic has holes in it. You're a pussy.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on September 02, 2004, 04:26:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: white boy on September 02, 2004, 02:42:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on September 02, 2004, 07:29:42 AM ---they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
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do u mean that as in.. they are such nice guys :/
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aight for a start Im just spittin FACTS. without any opinion or statement of mine afterwards.
second.. there's no way in hell Id risk the life of innocent children for anything in the god damn world. still, I think it's fucked up those ppl wont get their fuckin land, and still, I think they have a better reason to do it than some mofos who are just doin it for ransom .. money - who you probably considered gangsta.
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Seven: I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna rape your woman, and kill your kids, and then burn the place down with their bodies locked inside....
Unless you give me 1000 dollars in my paypal account. Come on. Be the bigger man.
Conclusion: Your logic has holes in it. You're a pussy.
King Tech Quadafi:
--- Quote from: SMiLE on September 07, 2004, 08:34:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on September 02, 2004, 04:26:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: white boy on September 02, 2004, 02:42:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on September 02, 2004, 07:29:42 AM ---they just released 26 children and women without anything in return
--- End quote ---
do u mean that as in.. they are such nice guys :/
--- End quote ---
aight for a start Im just spittin FACTS. without any opinion or statement of mine afterwards.
second.. there's no way in hell Id risk the life of innocent children for anything in the god damn world. still, I think it's fucked up those ppl wont get their fuckin land, and still, I think they have a better reason to do it than some mofos who are just doin it for ransom .. money - who you probably considered gangsta.
--- End quote ---
Seven: I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna rape your woman, and kill your kids, and then burn the place down with their bodies locked inside....
Unless you give me 1000 dollars in my paypal account. Come on. Be the bigger man.
Conclusion: Your logic has holes in it. You're a pussy.
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This is the most stupidest and retardly incorrect analogy ever. It is a complete 360 degree shift from the actual reality.
The Chechens want independence. They are not Russians. They were invaded couple years back by Russia. Their city is being carpet bombed.
Their women are being raped, according to Amnesty International. The Russian invading army is complicated in severe human rights abuses in Chechnya, including rape, indiscriminate shooting, executions and having fuckin camps. This is not anti Bush propaganda, its the truth.
The fact that you would dare suggest that it is Chechens raping Russian women, proves you know nothing about the world, or foreign affairs, and thus you shouldnt be commenting on things you dont understand and/or fully grasp. Also, there is nothing relevent to the extortion you suggest. Where the fuck did you get this idea?
Conclusion : You have no logic. You are an idiot.
Jome:
Trauma got this shit twisted.
Chechen's are being killed, executed for no other reason than being Chechen, on a every single day basis.
They live in poor refugee camps controlled by Russian military, with little to no food, with little to no medical resources, scared to death thinking about who the Russians gonna kill, rape or torture today.
A Chechen woman made a documentary with a hidden camera from inside one of these camps, and their conditions seemed almost as bad as Jewish prisoners during WWII. The Russian military some times did razzias looking for extremists, and if they found none, they just took a couple of random men as prisoners, maybe with some women "to have fun with"..
This does not justify killing children in terror acts, but goes to show that the average Chechen are not crazy terrorists who hates Russia bad enough to kill a couple hundred children.
Most Chechen's condamn the terror act in the same way everybody else does, they just want their freedom, but taking children hostages was just the dumbest and worst way to get the worlds attention.
Immortal:
Funny thing is that there are really two separate independence movements in Chechnya today. Both are for a independent Chechnya but one is being influenced heavily by Al Qaida recently since we haven't stepped in to hold the Russians accountable for their actions. The other is a moderate group of Chechnya's who dislike extremist ideology but also want a free and democratic Chechnya most of whom are made up of the old guard of fighters. While the later group of newly Al Qiada influenced fighters is quickly gathering support among the young men and kids in Chechnya. Seems Al Qiada has seen and realized that the best way to take over any movement is to paint the older generation as being weak and to target the younger and not so wise generation with promises of revenge for old crimes and by throwing money and arms around like as if they grew on trees. They seem to play into the young male eagerness for conflict and glory. Kind of reminds me of what Hitler and the NAZI's did in Germany.
REgardless, we can only wait for a nationailst Chechen movement to arise up in the future hopefully so that both Chechen and RUssian sides can come together at the negotiation table. This terrorist influence must be stopped.
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