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what was your reaction to 9/11
Ozir:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on September 12, 2004, 07:38:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ozir on September 12, 2004, 05:54:49 AM ---
I totally agree with you here... except where you say it was more tragic than the day they killed Natives, slaves, or the civil war. Killing off an entire people is pretty tragic. Treating people like animals for centuries (and it's still going down) is tragic. Slammin' a plane full of civilians into a building full of more civilians is tragic.
Peace damnit!
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oh the events of slavery, and indian removal, and the civil war, they are were really tragic, but not in any single day did something as deadly as 9/11 happen. My grandmother is 100% native, and I can tell you, what was done to her tribe is beyond belief, but it happened over time. A nation of people reduced to 19 people in 1919, though there was no one day that everyone was killed, it was happening over time. On one day, thousands of innocent people died because we had a false sense of security, we thought we were untouchable, and we are not. With a day that everything changed, our leaders took advantage and cheapen it.
Read the sig and see what I think of 9/11 now.
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I don't want you (or anyone else) to get it twisted... I feel the same way you do about the pimpin' of the 9/11 tragic events that is going on by the US government to create fear and submission of the American people.
But as to the killing of people in a single day as opposed to over time... let us look at the two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. I don't know the number dead in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but I'm sure it is way higher than the 3000 (or so) we lost on 9/11. Most of those people were civilians too.
Shit is deep... I'm glad we talking about it.
Peace 8)
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Ozir on September 12, 2004, 07:54:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on September 12, 2004, 07:38:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ozir on September 12, 2004, 05:54:49 AM ---
I totally agree with you here... except where you say it was more tragic than the day they killed Natives, slaves, or the civil war. Killing off an entire people is pretty tragic. Treating people like animals for centuries (and it's still going down) is tragic. Slammin' a plane full of civilians into a building full of more civilians is tragic.
Peace damnit!
--- End quote ---
oh the events of slavery, and indian removal, and the civil war, they are were really tragic, but not in any single day did something as deadly as 9/11 happen. My grandmother is 100% native, and I can tell you, what was done to her tribe is beyond belief, but it happened over time. A nation of people reduced to 19 people in 1919, though there was no one day that everyone was killed, it was happening over time. On one day, thousands of innocent people died because we had a false sense of security, we thought we were untouchable, and we are not. With a day that everything changed, our leaders took advantage and cheapen it.
Read the sig and see what I think of 9/11 now.
--- End quote ---
I don't want you (or anyone else) to get it twisted... I feel the same way you do about the pimpin' of the 9/11 tragic events that is going on by the US government to create fear and submission of the American people.
But as to the killing of people in a single day as opposed to over time... let us look at the two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. I don't know the number dead in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but I'm sure it is way higher than the 3000 (or so) we lost on 9/11. Most of those people were civilians too.
Shit is deep... I'm glad we talking about it.
Peace 8)
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I did say in America, but it is true, the Atomic bombs killed way more than 9/11. And the A-bombs hit large targets, they are something that Japan will never forget, and we would forget for doing. As the old saying goes though, Karma is a bitch, and 9/11 I feel is our wake up call, it was suppose to tell us that we are getting arrogent, we need to change who we are. You know the rest.. lol. But yeah, I know where you coming from. In world history, many events compare, or surpass 9/11 in terms of impact in death, the Atomic Bombs, The Night of Broken Glass, and many more.
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on September 12, 2004, 02:48:19 PM ---As the old saying goes though, Karma is a bitch
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LOL
And to think you're gonna be a college graduate.
Trauma-san:
Even Worse, he's going to be teaching our children the bullshit
1. he didn't learn
2. his twisted logic comes up with
3. his political party supports
you know, all the various niceties about how us getting bombed by terrorists, and our children wives and businessmen burning to death in crumbling buildings is a 'wake up call' because we're 'arrogant'.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Woodrow on September 12, 2004, 02:51:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on September 12, 2004, 02:48:19 PM ---As the old saying goes though, Karma is a bitch
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LOL
And to think you're gonna be a college graduate.
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actually I did graduate and I am working for the San Bernardino County Schools now.
And Trauma, why was the Twin Towers targeted, and it's not because of their size. What have we done to other countries in the past to deserve this, other than train the terriorist that attacked us, funded governments that we eventually overturned and take a day that was worst the bloodiest day in this countries history, and used that as a political tool to control the people, to take away their rights and take advantage of their weakness. And if you look closely, that's what they did to you, and to the rest of the United States.
What did I not learn. I learned a lot. Considering that I came for a shitty ass high school to graduate from a high regarded college says I must have learned something. My logic doesn't seem twisted to me. It makes sense when you realize that on the other side, people are not evil, but think of themselves as a people fighting against the greatest power in the world, who they consider evil. Now when I teach, I will not teach in a liberal manner for a few reasons, one, I believe in giving people every angle I can put out there. So it's like having MSNBC and Fox News in one classroom. Two, this country is built off capitalism, and I actually agree with it. And three, I hated when teachers used to push their politics and religion in my high school classrooms, even if I was a Christian, so I am not pushing my politics and my religion to my students.
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