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Blast, Mushroom Cloud Reported in N. Korea
Entreri117:
--- Quote from: rampant on September 12, 2004, 06:48:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Artemis Entreri on September 12, 2004, 06:42:43 AM ---1) To save the lives of millions of American and Japanese lives. If the bombs weren't dropped, Japan wouldn't have surrendered, and that would have called for the invasion of Japan. The invasion of Japan would've killed millions of soldiers, Japanese and American, and would have taken alot longer, and costed alot more money.
So, we used the atomic bombs in 1945. Since then, America has had NO wars. America didn't declare war in Korea, Vietnam, and both Iraq conflicts. But you call them wars. Ok...did America use nuclear weapons in ANY of those "wars"? NO. America would only use nuclear weapons if they were desparately needed...like in WWII.
North Korea, on the other hand, WOULD use them, in one way or another. Whether actually using them in combat, or selling them...either way is using their nuclear "assets". North Korea is very poor...so say here comes Al-Qaida offering a huge amount of money to North Korea to purchase some nukes. Since N Korea is so poor and they know what Al-Qaida will use them for (the United States, perhaps? ???), they happily sell them the nukes. A few monthes of planning later, a few cities, and few million American lives are wiped off the face of the Earth.
Now please, read all of that carefully, and "get" exactly what I'm trying to "get through" to you.
You'd still rather North Korea have nukes than America?
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Since then america has had no wars? Uh, what are we doing now then?
war 1. A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties.
But i agree with you mostly. Korea eats dogs, they will sell nukes for money. Nobody could know what would happen during ww2 so you cant say millions of lives could be lost.
America back then had a pathetic military, atomic bombs were basically our only leverage. Now that america has the largest most powerful army, we have no use for nukes. Other countries on the other hand....Nukes would be their only way to beat america in war.
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I don't care what the dictionary says, Rampant, we have not had any WARS. Military Conflicts? Yes, we've had several of those (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq x2). By war, I mean Congress actually declaring war...that didn't happen since World War II.
Yes, people DID know what would happen if America didn't drop the nukes...that was the decision Harry Truman was faced with. Either drop the bombs, and hope Japan surrenders, or go with plan B, which was the land invasion of Japan. Hell man, the top generals of the military already had it planned out.
At the beginning of World War II, America's military forces were pretty rag-tag. But towards the end of it they were VERY powerful, since America kept producing so many supplies and soldiers to fight.
Now lets get back to Korea.
Jay ay Beee:
Once and for all:
Japan was going to surrender anyway. They were negotiating.
The bombs were dropped to send a message to the Soviets. To show them what America was capable of.
End.
infinite59:
How come nobody reports when the United States, Isreal, or any European country test their stockpiles of nuclear weapons? How come it's only news when dark skinned people develop 1 or 2 nukes? Racism is alive and well.
white Boy:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on September 12, 2004, 10:00:11 AM ---How come nobody reports when the United States, Isreal, or any European country test their stockpiles of nuclear weapons? How come it's only news when dark skinned people develop 1 or 2 nukes? Racism is alive and well.
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1) ur white
2) koreans arent dark skinned , actually Isrelians are more dark skinned than koreans...
infinite59:
--- Quote from: white boy on September 12, 2004, 10:01:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on September 12, 2004, 10:00:11 AM ---How come nobody reports when the United States, Isreal, or any European country test their stockpiles of nuclear weapons? How come it's only news when dark skinned people develop 1 or 2 nukes? Racism is alive and well.
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1) ur white
2) koreans arent dark skinned , actually Isrelians are more dark skinned than koreans...
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1) yes, what's your point?
2) Look at Jerry Sienfield and then look at Kim Jong Ill and then tell me who you would describe as "dark skinned".
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