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Hip Hop community speaks out against new sampling laws
Leggy Hendrix:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 19, 2004, 06:38:08 PM ---Why don't these losers just pick up an instrument and learn how to play it. Then they'll learn how to create original music and then they won't face this problem. I hate how they use the excuse of it being "a part of hip hop". Shit man, just stop fucking complaining. If you don't create it yourself, then pay the person that did. It's as simple as that. Anyone against this wouldn't be if they had one of their original compositions stolen by some rap producer.
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you're a dumbass...
anyway, it just means people are gonna have to be smarter about how they sample...i guarantee that this will not stop people like Premo, 9th Wonder, Kanye etc from using samples...
Shallow:
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When did I say this would stop sampling. I just said these hip hop "musicians", and I use that term very loosely, should stop fucking complaining. If rock acts started stealing lyrics from hip hop then I would expect the rappers to get paid for that. You wanna know why it bothers me so much? I'll tell you. It's because these producers steal music and then loop it. The song they steal from is already amazing but all these hip hop only kids seem to think the hip hop producer created it. I know this ruling is about small samples, but stealing someones 3 notes and reversing them is still stealing to me.
Yeah it's a part of hip hop, but so what? It's been a part of hip hop for too long. The piano was a significant part of the rock n roll sound in the 50s, it helped create what rock n roll is. How many times do you hear a piano in current rock n roll? It's not often, I'll tell you that. What I am implying is that maybe it's time for hip hop to change too. Nothing lasts forever until it changes. The whole sound is getting old, and old fast. Time for something new. That something new could very well be real musicians contributing to the genre more so than they currently do. Right now all we have are real musicians conforming to the hip hop sound, when what we need is them to start creating new sounds. Hip hop hasn't created a new sound since the scratch, and even that sounds a lot like stuff Jmmy Page, and Jimi Hendrix would do during guitar solos. Primo would just rip off jazz, Dre ripped of funk, RZA ripped of sou, and Puffy ripped off, well just about any song that was a hit in the past.. Even the west coast siren is ripped off, and it's the trademark. I don't hate hip hop, I'm just getting bored with it and yearn for something new.
Leggy Hendrix:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 20, 2004, 06:07:07 AM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When did I say this would stop sampling. I just said these hip hop "musicians", and I use that term very loosely, should stop fucking complaining.
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only the first part of my previous post was directed at you...the rest was just a general statement...
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 20, 2004, 06:07:07 AM ---If rock acts started stealing lyrics from hip hop then I would expect the rappers to get paid for that. You wanna know why it bothers me so much? I'll tell you. It's because these producers steal music and then loop it. The song they steal from is already amazing but all these hip hop only kids seem to think the hip hop producer created it.
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see my previous post... 8)
p.s. if you are so bored with all these the way hip hop is now why are you here? there are plenty of other boards that will cater more towards your needs...
Shallow:
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I said I wanted something new and fresh from hip hop, and I think this is a proper forum to express that.
Don Jacob:
this is a good law wether you like it or not, the "art" of sampling has lost all meaning
and again wether you like it or not hip hop has helped ruin the musical integrity of popular music
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