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It's Official - Roy Jones Jr. is a Has-Been
M Dogg™:
On the Roy subject, I guess it's a career. Most fighters don't last past 35 anyways, except the ones that end up in wheelchairs and eat throw a straw. I think honestly 32 is the usual cut off age for a great figher. Hopkins is an exception, mainly because he started his career later than most, he started boxing at the age of 22, well most boxers start as teenagers. But Jones Jr. beat Hopkins and James Toney, and has outclassed every ranked challenger before him, beat Johnny Ruiz to claim a piece of the heavyweight title. I think he has proven his skills. Honestly, like Hopkins, there was no one to fight in his division for years. He beat every middleweight, and moved up from there. The Cruiserweight division is even weaker than Light Heavyweight, and Middleweight was lacking until the Welterweights like Oscar and Tito moved up. But aside from Tito and Oscar, two true Welterweights, Hopkins had no one to fight. Same with Roy. They dominated in an era with no to beat. But Roy had a great career, beat the only two people of his era worth beating, Hopkins and Toney, then beat a heavyweight, if Roy decided to call it a career, it will be remembered as a great career. Then there is always people that hate no matter what, but that's with everyone. Hell, people don't think Ali is the greatest... lol.
Now on Ali. I always put Joe Louis right behind Ali. Big George I think was the most powerful man in boxing history, any division, pound for pound, whatever you want to judge. Louis though was just flat out great. But he was like Jones Jr. and Hopkins, he dominated in a time when he was the division. After he beat the German, there was no one to beat, he just dominated. Power, George, fighter, Louis, but speed and brains, there is only Ali. He was so fast, and he had a different style for every fighter once he got older and slower. When he was young, he was just so fast that no one could hit him. Against any other heavyweight, he would beat them. Tyson was the most physically gifted boxer ever, but Ali was just the greatest, he was too smart. There was no fixed fights, in fact Don King and everyone else had their money on Ali. After the lost George Foreman went into depression, and was eventually saved by God. But he dissappeared for a while after that, and lost the fight right after the Rumble. I doubt it was a fix. Ali was just too smart. Rocky, he was good too, but he could never match Ali's speed. He was tougher than nails, and he could take a punch, but Ali would beat him by points. But there's haters that will always say someone is better, so, whatever.
i love men who take pictures with their booty's out:
smh .. he came back to early...he shoulda waited a yr...imo..he didnt even much look right.. but hey..he had his fame.. there goes tha tyson jones fight..they was hypin up.
and i agree wit whomever said big george is the greatest... he woulda sat ali on the sidelines way be4 larry holmes did if ali wasnt runnin so much, my uncle useta say foreman could knock a hippotamus out..
that ali foreman fight wasnt fix...everbody around ali was scared.....of how he was gone take a shot from george..they played it safe..then george caught him 1 good time..he rocked ali..he went to his corner hurtin.. he was like fuck that shit.. and thats when he started runnin...and george got tired...
and everything i have seen of ali was him runnin, in all of ali's fights against, frazier,holmes,and foreman..u can tell when they hurt him..and his corner told him to start runnin.. once u hit ali wit a good shot..u knew it..kuz he will run..
Don Jacob:
--- Quote from: she lives in my lap on September 25, 2004, 10:45:10 PM ---
smh .. he came back to early...he shoulda waited a yr...imo..he didnt even much look right.. but hey..he had his fame.. there goes tha tyson jones fight..they was hypin up.
and i agree wit whomever said big george is the greatest... he woulda sat ali on the sidelines way be4 larry holmes did if ali wasnt runnin so much, my uncle useta say foreman could knock a hippotamus out..
that ali foreman fight wasnt fix...everbody around ali was scared.....of how he was gone take a shot from george..they played it safe..then george caught him 1 good time..he rocked ali..he went to his corner hurtin.. he was like fuck that shit.. and thats when he started runnin...and george got tired...
and everything i have seen of ali was him runnin, in all of ali's fights against, frazier,holmes,and foreman..u can tell when they hurt him..and his corner told him to start runnin.. once u hit ali wit a good shot..u knew it..kuz he will run..
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Sikotic™:
Here's Jones out on the floor.
Like shallow said, he got more messed up from his head hittin the canvas than the actual shot. He may possibly have suffered a concussion as well. Johnson wasn't even a big hitter. I honestly think Jones gameplan was to let Johnson tire out and take him out from there. Too bad Johnson had way too much stamina than anyone expected. This has definitely been a good two weeks when it comes to the boxing world and we still got the Tito fight comin' up.
As for Ali, Ali was definitely a runner. I think alot of his popularity or his perception of being so great was from his mouth, similar to Roy Jones in his prime.
Adam Donnelly:
What are U on
Ali took Big Georges punches sometimes flush on the chin.
So dont give me that 'If they went toe 2 toe'
Ali won fair and square Get over it.
As 4 Roy Jones
The guy has never bin a light Heavyweight. Seems that he just stays at that weight because he is to lazy to keep at super middle.
I dont agree that he has not fought anyone.
Hopkins, Toney, Mcallum all good fighters and Roy beat them easily.
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