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7even:
^^ dont give me that bullshit. everybody who reads your recent ToT posts knows that you dont hate Bush at all... please.. it's aight .. like you would say.. "you're entitled to your opinon".. but let them artists be entitled to their opinon as well. I figure there's A BUNCH of famous ppl out who express how they dont support Bush.. but guess what homie, there's a reason for that.. it's not like Bush is a good President or something..

Lincoln:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 07, 2004, 02:24:24 PM ---^^ dont give me that bullshit. everybody who reads your recent ToT posts knows that you dont hate Bush at all... please.. it's aight .. like you would say.. "you're entitled to your opinon".. but let them artists be entitled to their opinon as well. I figure there's A BUNCH of famous ppl out who express how they dont support Bush.. but guess what homie, there's a reason for that.. it's not like Bush is a good President or something..

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Of course they're entitled to their opinion, I just think it's stupid that all of the sudden these artists think they're fucking politicians. Besides, voting Kerry won't make America better, maybe worse.

Now, you claim my recent TOT posts show that I don't hate Bush. Well I don't hate Bush, I don't really hate anyone. I just disagree with many of his policies. I do seem his as the superior candidate in the race, but that's because my main problem with Bush is foreign policy and Kerry's is pretty much the same. I support the constitutional amendment, and that's it. 1 thing. That's more than I support for Kerry.

Lincoln:

--- Quote from: Ozir on October 07, 2004, 02:31:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Mental Traveller on October 07, 2004, 02:18:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 07, 2004, 09:14:56 AM ---^^^you're just mad cause youre in love with dubya...

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I can't stand Dubya dumbass, when have I made posts praising him? But the only thing I dislike more than Bush himself is all the stupid musicians that jumped on a bandwagon. I see all those "Punk Against Bush" and "Rock Against Bush" and it's stupid. These people didn't pay attention to politics before it became popular to hate Bush. Hell, Bruce Springsteen is one of my favorite artists from when I was a young kid, listening to him with my Dad, and I lost respect for him. I've always felt that if you want to make political music it should be non-partisan.

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I agree and disagree with you.  I agree there is a "bash bush bandwagon" that started fairly recently, but I'd rather have bangwagon musicians bashing Bush than Bush in office fucking shit up.  I disagree with the Springsteen comment.  I don't really listen to his music, but I do know that he made "Born in the U.S.A." and Reagan jumped all over it not realizing it was a criticism against some of the problems facing America at that time (issues regarding vietnam vets in particular).  Springsteen rightfully got upset because Reagan tried to use the song and make himself look good.  Since then, I've seen or read about him talking about politics and the issues facing this country.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that Springsteen didn't jump on the bandwagon yesterday... he was picked up by the wagon back when Reagan was in office.

peace  8)

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Reagan wasn't the only one who jumped to use it, the Democrats did too. Springsteen from my understanding was just opposed to people using his song in general for partisan politics.

Shallow:
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Springsteen has been anti-republican since the 70s. He is not jumping on to sell records or because it's popular. His post 9/11 Rising album was about the event but completely not political. He is just a concerened American who doesn't want innocent young men and women to die and kill in Iraq for no good reason. Rising Springsteen? You should have known I had to respond to that. You should no Bruce better than that. Over the years he has alwya voiced his opinion. In concerts in the early 80s, he would start shows talking about how Reagan was messing things up and would bash him on stage all the time.

Lincoln:

--- Quote from: Shallow on October 07, 2004, 02:55:15 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Springsteen has been anti-republican since the 70s. He is not jumping on to sell records or because it's popular. His post 9/11 Rising album was about the event but completely not political. He is just a concerened American who doesn't want innocent young men and women to die and kill in Iraq for no good reason. Rising Springsteen? You should have known I had to respond to that. You should no Bruce better than that. Over the years he has alwya voiced his opinion. In concerts in the early 80s, he would start shows talking about how Reagan was messing things up and would bash him on stage all the time.

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But I've always thought Bruce was against both Dems and Reps, am I mistaken? I thought he got just as pissed at the Democrats using his song as he did at the Republicans?

Anyways, I'll always be a fan of Springsteen's music. My Dad's copies of Born In The USA and Tunnel Of Love are well-worn proof of that. It's not really him who makes me mad. It's more the Puff Daddies and other people like that. Maybe I don't agree with Bruce becoming more partisan, but at least he's always been a social commentator.

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