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Rampant:
Did someone say obie is better than banks....?
uh im gonna have to disagree
Bramsterdam (see ya):
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 07, 2004, 08:35:13 AM ---
p.s.: I dont want Stat Quo on the Album :-X
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if i get/download this album i dont want him neither.. but at least theres no g-unit, besides 50.
eS El Duque:
--- Quote from: SGV on October 07, 2004, 01:39:43 PM ---Young Buck >>> Game = Stat Quo >>>>>> Obie >>>>>>>>>>>>> Banks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-12
Yup.
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shut up white boy
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Mental Traveller on October 07, 2004, 04:44:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 07, 2004, 02:55:15 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Springsteen has been anti-republican since the 70s. He is not jumping on to sell records or because it's popular. His post 9/11 Rising album was about the event but completely not political. He is just a concerened American who doesn't want innocent young men and women to die and kill in Iraq for no good reason. Rising Springsteen? You should have known I had to respond to that. You should no Bruce better than that. Over the years he has alwya voiced his opinion. In concerts in the early 80s, he would start shows talking about how Reagan was messing things up and would bash him on stage all the time.
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But I've always thought Bruce was against both Dems and Reps, am I mistaken? I thought he got just as pissed at the Democrats using his song as he did at the Republicans?
Anyways, I'll always be a fan of Springsteen's music. My Dad's copies of Born In The USA and Tunnel Of Love are well-worn proof of that. It's not really him who makes me mad. It's more the Puff Daddies and other people like that. Maybe I don't agree with Bruce becoming more partisan, but at least he's always been a social commentator.
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You aren't fully mistaken. Bruce stayed out of taking when it came to the patry he was asked to promote. He was always against Republicans, but not neccessarily FOR Democrats. He didn't care much for the Reagan administration but didn't care enough to make it personal, until they did by misusing the song. The Democrats didn't understand the song either. All you have to do is listen to the lyrics, or the alternate acoustic version (which is amazing). If Reagan decided to go to war for a stupid reason, then I'm sure Bruce would have been vocal (even though it wouldn't have mattered, Reagan destroyed Mondale. Bruce's involvement would have not changed anything)
Now Bruce stayed out of polotics in the past because during his entire career there was nothing big he was concerned about. If Bruce was recording in the 60s, you better believe that he'd be very vocal about his thoughts on Vietnam. Now we have Bush who Bruce really doesn't agree with and does not want to see 4 more years of. In Bruce's mind, nothing can be worse than Bush right now so supporting the only guy that has a chance of beating him is the best option. He's promoted Kerry for a while now. Peace under Kerry isn't a garauntee, but it's more likely than with Bush. Bruce is just a citizen in a democratic society who is voicing his opinion, and he has the right and duty to do so. I'd like to think that anyone who doesn't want war doesn't want Bush. Puffy on the other hand, well, I don't know what he's in it for. I wouldn't be shocked to find out his clothes are made in sweat shops. lol. It doesn't really suit Puff to go against Bush since he's never been at all political, but with Bruce, it was always a matter of time. You can't tell me you're surprised Bruce got involved.
Lincoln:
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 07, 2004, 06:15:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Mental Traveller on October 07, 2004, 04:44:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 07, 2004, 02:55:15 PM ---^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Springsteen has been anti-republican since the 70s. He is not jumping on to sell records or because it's popular. His post 9/11 Rising album was about the event but completely not political. He is just a concerened American who doesn't want innocent young men and women to die and kill in Iraq for no good reason. Rising Springsteen? You should have known I had to respond to that. You should no Bruce better than that. Over the years he has alwya voiced his opinion. In concerts in the early 80s, he would start shows talking about how Reagan was messing things up and would bash him on stage all the time.
--- End quote ---
But I've always thought Bruce was against both Dems and Reps, am I mistaken? I thought he got just as pissed at the Democrats using his song as he did at the Republicans?
Anyways, I'll always be a fan of Springsteen's music. My Dad's copies of Born In The USA and Tunnel Of Love are well-worn proof of that. It's not really him who makes me mad. It's more the Puff Daddies and other people like that. Maybe I don't agree with Bruce becoming more partisan, but at least he's always been a social commentator.
--- End quote ---
You aren't fully mistaken. Bruce stayed out of taking when it came to the patry he was asked to promote. He was always against Republicans, but not neccessarily FOR Democrats. He didn't care much for the Reagan administration but didn't care enough to make it personal, until they did by misusing the song. The Democrats didn't understand the song either. All you have to do is listen to the lyrics, or the alternate acoustic version (which is amazing). If Reagan decided to go to war for a stupid reason, then I'm sure Bruce would have been vocal (even though it wouldn't have mattered, Reagan destroyed Mondale. Bruce's involvement would have not changed anything)
Now Bruce stayed out of polotics in the past because during his entire career there was nothing big he was concerned about. If Bruce was recording in the 60s, you better believe that he'd be very vocal about his thoughts on Vietnam. Now we have Bush who Bruce really doesn't agree with and does not want to see 4 more years of. In Bruce's mind, nothing can be worse than Bush right now so supporting the only guy that has a chance of beating him is the best option. He's promoted Kerry for a while now. Peace under Kerry isn't a garauntee, but it's more likely than with Bush. Bruce is just a citizen in a democratic society who is voicing his opinion, and he has the right and duty to do so. I'd like to think that anyone who doesn't want war doesn't want Bush. Puffy on the other hand, well, I don't know what he's in it for. I wouldn't be shocked to find out his clothes are made in sweat shops. lol. It doesn't really suit Puff to go against Bush since he's never been at all political, but with Bruce, it was always a matter of time. You can't tell me you're surprised Bruce got involved.
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I can agree with what you're saying, Bruce was a bad example. My problem is with most of the other musicians involved.
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