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Can Wal Mart single handedly lower CD Prices?

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Shallow:

--- Quote from: The Hardest Muthafucka In Here on October 13, 2004, 08:55:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: 187Proof on October 13, 2004, 07:35:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 13, 2004, 07:13:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Hardest Muthafucka In Here on October 13, 2004, 06:13:27 PM ---Wal Mart can't single handedly lower CD prices because all they carry is the EDITED versions.  If they could stop being such faggots and sell the artists' intended works, maybe they could dominate the market and make CDs cheaper.  But true music fans don't fuck with Wal-Mart.

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Why don't you check the bilboard and figure out how many Cds are on there that need to be edited. I counted that less than 20 albums out of 100, carry the Parental Advisory Sign. And if you look at the history of record sales, I don't think any album with explicit lyrics in in the top 25 albums sold. The market for explicit lyrics isn't as big as you claim. True music fans according to you, don't fuck with Wal Mart, but those "true" music fans you speak of probably don't buy albums, any way. They download or buy bootleg. The bottom line is that Wal Mart is such a big part of the consumer market that it has the power to force whole sale prices down.

Besides, I don't what Wal Mart you guys go to, but hte one by my house selld plenty of non edited music, but they have huge Parental advisory stickers over the platsic. Sometimes so big you mcan barely see the album cover. It just doesn't sell Eminem's solo albums. So Eminem may be the one guy who won't have to lower his price, because Wal Mart won't carry his music. What's really odd is they don't have Eminem, but they have a whole bunch of Manson. It can be argued that Wal Mart doesn't make a difference to sales, since Em is the highest selling artist in the past few years, and he isn't at Wal Mart, so I'm not sure how it'll go down. We'll see as it plays out.

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I'm not disagreeing with anything you have to say except when you said the Wal-Mart by you has plenty of un-edited cd's. I know for a fact they don't. Peeps here that have been around for a while may know of a guy named Sam Walton. He was the creator of Wal-Mart. Well way back when, my dad used to be a "district manager" for Wal-Mart, so he would basically go around over-see different locations. Anyways, during this time I was lucky enough to meet Sam Walton and have dinner with him a few times (R.I.P.). This was around the time that I was really starting to get into hip-hop so I would always ask him about different things music-wise (I would think he had some kind of super inside-info power lol). I remember asking him about not being able to get an cd's with parental advisories at Wal-Mart (actually very little rap was sold there at this time anyways). He said that he NEVER wants something that the public can associate as being so negative to be associated with this phranchise. He's dead and gone now, and his family runs the company but my father still keeps in contact with the family. I've been told on more then one occasion within the last 2 years or so that because of Sam's wishes, his family will never put "Parental Advisory" cd's in their stores (even though they market hip-hop in there now). I'm bored, so figured I'd lay down some 411 :)

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Damn, thats real big to have dinner with Sam Walton, he's like one of the biggest business genuises ever.  That musta been a real honor.  Anyways, I thought the topic was about rap music Shallow, which is why I was saying that no one who actually is a rap fan will fuck with Wal-Mart.  Also, I disagree with the true fans not buying music statement.  In my eyes, a true fan of an artist doesn't bootleg at all.  For instance, I can be a "fan" of like Bad Azz or something, and like it enough to download it, but any artist I truly support, such as DJ Quik, I will buy the CD.

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Sorry, didn't mean to be offensive. But I strongly believe that the market for explicit rap isn't big enough that the companies feel they can survive with out Wal Mart. I feel they will still pull back prices from the CDs that Wal Mart does sell, and then they'll have to pull back other CDs too, just to prevent the artists from complaining.

abstruse:
It is not possible for Wal-Mart to single-handedly lower the prices for cd's. I work at Best Buy and can tell you that 2 of every 5 cd's bought in the U.S. are bought at Best Buy.  Maybe with the help of other major reatailers can the cost of cd's lower, but not with Wal-Mart itself. For those of you who actually think they can... take a look at last year.. Best Buy signed a deal with Rolling Stones which stated that Best Buy would be the only retailer who carried their DVD(not wal-mart, target, etc...). The outcome of this?? 19X Platinum selling DVD, the biggest selling Music-DVD in history. Now other artist such as Elton John, are also trying to sign exclusive deals with Best Buy... so Wal-Mart can eat a FUKIN DIK. Anythin that helps drop the sells of that under-paying, employee over-working, racist pos company of theres gets a big from me.

btw.. cd's are still over-priced, so record labels can suck the same dick that wal-marts eating.

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: eS El Duque on October 13, 2004, 11:56:02 AM ---thats good...i hate paying 12 to 14 bucks a cd ;D

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You SAY that's good... however, 3 years down the road after it happens, and independents have to sell THEIR Cd's for tons less money since Wal-Mart is selling so much cheaper; and indy labels can't get distribution anymore, because the big places (the only ones left) aren't buying their indy cd's... then everybody will be bitching and complaining and whining.  Nobody likes a free market. 

Trauma-san:
As for Best Buy selling 2 out of 5 cd's... the point of the whole discussion (which you missed) is that if Wal Mart lowers prices, everybody will drive to Wal-Mart instead of Best Buy.  So it doesn't matter how many cd's Best Buy sells right now, you can bet your ass if Wal Mart's 2 or 3 dollars cheaper, THEY'LL get the sale. 

Danté Williams:

--- Quote from: Face In A Cloud on October 13, 2004, 10:27:56 AM ---most new cds are between 18-21 euros here in holland.

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Same here in Spain. Plus they can be up to 27 if they're imported (which is very common with hiphop cds).

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