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My opinion on the Eminem/M.J. thing - please read
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Dosia on October 17, 2004, 07:54:36 PM ---i dont recall eminem saying "mj likes to stick his dick in little children". Your just making the situation worse then it actually is. If you dont like the track dont listen to it, which im sure the majority of us dont listen to it.
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He has kids jumping around on a bed with Michael, and then says shit all through the song about boys shaking their ass, and child molestation, etc. etc. are you fucking stupid? THIS is what passes for hip hop. THIS is why the world considers your favorite music THE FUCKING JOKE it is! There's your sense of humour.
davida.b.:
--- Quote from: Twang on October 17, 2004, 09:52:04 PM ---THIS is why the world considers your favorite music THE FUCKING JOKE it is!
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The whole world considers it a joke?? hahahahaha, thats funny. Not everyone thinks like you. You get a diss for that.
Ðøšïå:
--- Quote from: Twang on October 17, 2004, 09:52:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dosia on October 17, 2004, 07:54:36 PM ---i dont recall eminem saying "mj likes to stick his dick in little children". Your just making the situation worse then it actually is. If you dont like the track dont listen to it, which im sure the majority of us dont listen to it.
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He has kids jumping around on a bed with Michael, and then says shit all through the song about boys shaking their ass, and child molestation, etc. etc. are you fucking stupid? THIS is what passes for hip hop. THIS is why the world considers your favorite music THE FUCKING JOKE it is! There's your sense of humour.
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and i still dont recall em saying "mj likes to stick his dick in little children". Go watch your gay porn and jack off to "beat it" fuckin idiot.
T-Dogg:
It amazes me to some extent, that even after dropping his worst single by far in his career, the whole fuckin world still talks about Eminem. Granted, not because of the musical elements of said single, but still.
Personally, I don't see what exactly is Michael so mad about. Like it was said, the video didn't show him doing anything bad to anybody. In the lyrics, there ARE those few lines "guess who's back with a brand new rap... ...I done touched on everything but little boys". But then there's the "that's not a stab at Michael, that's just a metaphor, I'm just psycho". Right after that. Now, I know the two don't just cancel each other out, but I think it's clear Em never intended to harm MJ with this.
But after it's all said and done, I really couldn't care less. It's all just fuel to keep the Slim Shady fire burning. I just want the album and hope "Just Lose It" is the only wack poppy cut on there.
W-Side:
--- Quote from: Twang on October 17, 2004, 02:09:00 PM ---Alright, first off, Benzino's an asshole, so don't think I'm jumping on his jock since he's sticking up for Michael.
What you got to remember about all of this is, Eminem is being a prick about this whole situation. How? Lemme explain.
Weird Al does parodies of famous songs, right? We all know who Weird Al is. Weird Al has a position, since he's a nice guy, where he asks everybody that he parodies if it's o.k. with them to do it. Weird Al asked Eminem! If he could do a video parodying Eminem, and Eminem said "No". Flat out No. Wouldn't take what he gives out. Eminem has helped make a huge career on making fun of famous people, but yet wouldn't let Weird Al make fun of him. Strike One against Slim Shady.
Remember a couple years ago when Eminem was fighting with Moby? @ the MTV awards, Triumph the Comic Insult Dog had the balls to go up to Eminem after talking to Moby, and Eminem about beat up the fucking PUPPET. A PUPPET. He's a Bitch. He can't take anybody spoofing his ass, and then he cries like a baby in all of his videos about how misunderstood he is blah blah blah.
Now, take Michael on the other hand. Weird Al asked Michael in the 80's, when Weird Al was a NOBODY, if he could make fun of Michael in a video for "Beat It" called "Eat It"... where he dressed up like a fat ass, and danced around grabbing his crotch and making fun of all of Michael's shit like the glove and everything. Michael loved it, said he could do it, and Weird Al got RICH off of it. Later, Weird Al spoofed "Bad" with "Fat", asked Michael if he could do it, Michael said yes, it's great, and Weird Al made another few million dollars.
A couple years back, that kid band made a remake of "Smooth Criminal" with monkeys in the videos, a guy jumping around doing the moonwalk and grabbing his crotch with a glove, all kinds of shit, and they asked Michael's permission before they did even that! And he said yeah, it was great, he loved it, go ahead with his blessing.
Michael doesn't have any problem with people making fun of him. Making fun of MOLESTING CHILDREN, .... ISN'T funny. How hard is that to see?
So I don't blame him for wanting the video pulled, it's slanderous. If I say "Overseer's a funny motherfucker", that's one thing. If I go around and say "Overseer likes to have little boys over at his house, and he fondles their penis"....... that's not really that funny. How anybody doesn't see the difference is beyond me.
On top of all of this, Michael never said he would sue Eminem. Geraldo Rivera said Michael is powerful enough to sue... Michael called into Steve Harvey's Radio show in L.A., and said a lot of nice things about Eminem, actually. He's said for years he was a fan of Eminem, and Eminem has made fun of Michael before, but don't you think it's a little over the line to make fun of someone molesting children? That shit ain't funny.
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I would like to thank you, Steve, Radio One, the African-American community, my fans from around the world, and some of the members of the media, for the support that you have given to me. I would also like to thank Mr. Robert Johnson, Chairman and Founder of BET for pulling the Eminem video from BET's airplay. I appreciate very much the love and support that you all have shown me.
"I am very angry at Eminem's depiction of me in his video. I feel that it is outrageous and disrespectful. It is one thing to spoof, but it is another to be demeaning and insensitive.
"I've admired Eminem as a artist, and was shocked by this. The video was inappropriate and disrespectful to me, my children, my family, and the community at large. It is my hope that the other networks will take BET's lead and pull it."
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couldn't have said it any better.. props
as for the lyrics not clearly refering to molestation, please.. "I done touched on everything but little boys" what else is that supposed to mean
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