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Nov. 2 is almost here. Get out and vote KERRY/EDWARDS.

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Ozir:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 19, 2004, 04:18:53 PM ---props to you Ant.. you give out well written, well structured, caring elaborate arguments without insulting all the time, that's something that hardly happens anywhere.
good to have you here to make it happen here.

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This is well said and I agree.  Props Ant.  Keep doin' it!   :)

Ant:

--- Quote from: Trauma on October 19, 2004, 06:51:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on October 19, 2004, 02:53:52 PM ---^^ no actually the truth is Edwards was almost never present during the senate during the past year while he was campaigning.  The same is true of Kerry.  The reason being.  Most times Senate votes are not crucial.  For example.  Sometimes you know a bill is going to win by a huge margin and your vote won't really effect the outcome.  Kerry/Edwards missed a lot of votes this year because they were campaigning, and because a lot of votes just didn't matter.  Again Bush manipulates the info to make them look like uncaring assholes.  Kerry/Edwards showed up to vote on a few important, closely contested issues, and cast their votes.

Just like in NYS for the avg. joe u already know Kerry is going to win NYS.  So your vote really doesn't matter, and no one claims your a bad person if you don't show up on Nov. 2.


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Man, you don't know what you're talking about.  I'm from North Carolina, Edwards is one of my senators.  He's frequently been absent since the beginning of his term, and he's never, ever caught dead in North Carolina.  He doesn't even live here in the 'off' season.  Nice try, but you're wrong.  The man never showed up for our state.

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Like I've already said, and I'll say it again.  This post was not about Edwards senate record.  I honestly am not all that informed on that topic so I'm not going to debate about it.  But I clearly predicted what you would do about four posts ago, and you did it anyways.  I said you'd find a weak inconsequential arguement and try and reframe the debate.  Bottomline is my initial post has never been refuted. 

Want another reason not to vote Bush.  Add this one to the list.

http://video.buzzflash.com/04/10/Bushs_Big_Joke.wmv

Click the link for a short video.

Ozir:

--- Quote from: Trauma on October 19, 2004, 06:51:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on October 19, 2004, 02:53:52 PM ---^^ no actually the truth is Edwards was almost never present during the senate during the past year while he was campaigning.  The same is true of Kerry.  The reason being.  Most times Senate votes are not crucial.  For example.  Sometimes you know a bill is going to win by a huge margin and your vote won't really effect the outcome.  Kerry/Edwards missed a lot of votes this year because they were campaigning, and because a lot of votes just didn't matter.  Again Bush manipulates the info to make them look like uncaring assholes.  Kerry/Edwards showed up to vote on a few important, closely contested issues, and cast their votes.

Just like in NYS for the avg. joe u already know Kerry is going to win NYS.  So your vote really doesn't matter, and no one claims your a bad person if you don't show up on Nov. 2.

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Man, you don't know what you're talking about.  I'm from North Carolina, Edwards is one of my senators.  He's frequently been absent since the beginning of his term, and he's never, ever caught dead in North Carolina.  He doesn't even live here in the 'off' season.  Nice try, but you're wrong.  The man never showed up for our state.

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Here is an article by the Associated Press, written in 2003 and featured in a journal from your state of North Carolina, that talks about Edwards attendance record.  Explains how prior to becoming a candidate, his attendance record was at 95%!  Also explains that even though he is allowed to miss Senate meetings while campaigning, he still makes it back to vote in items that are important for his state.
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031770817111

Cheney is the senate prez.  Here you will find who acted as senate prez during the last 4 years (current up to two weeks ago, 10.5.04) when Cheney's ass wasn't there: http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/10/6/132551/259
... and before you knock the site as being biased, check the source... The Congressional Record! (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/index.html)

Mr. Cheney can go fuck himself with his bullshit lies!

VOTE FOR KERRY/EDWARDS ON NOVEMBER 2ND!

Ant:

--- Quote from: Ozir on October 19, 2004, 08:16:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma on October 19, 2004, 06:51:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ant on October 19, 2004, 02:53:52 PM ---^^ no actually the truth is Edwards was almost never present during the senate during the past year while he was campaigning.  The same is true of Kerry.  The reason being.  Most times Senate votes are not crucial.  For example.  Sometimes you know a bill is going to win by a huge margin and your vote won't really effect the outcome.  Kerry/Edwards missed a lot of votes this year because they were campaigning, and because a lot of votes just didn't matter.  Again Bush manipulates the info to make them look like uncaring assholes.  Kerry/Edwards showed up to vote on a few important, closely contested issues, and cast their votes.

Just like in NYS for the avg. joe u already know Kerry is going to win NYS.  So your vote really doesn't matter, and no one claims your a bad person if you don't show up on Nov. 2.

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Man, you don't know what you're talking about.  I'm from North Carolina, Edwards is one of my senators.  He's frequently been absent since the beginning of his term, and he's never, ever caught dead in North Carolina.  He doesn't even live here in the 'off' season.  Nice try, but you're wrong.  The man never showed up for our state.

--- End quote ---

Here is an article by the Associated Press, written in 2003 and featured in a journal from your state of North Carolina, that talks about Edwards attendance record.  Explains how prior to becoming a candidate, his attendance record was at 95%!  Also explains that even though he is allowed to miss Senate meetings while campaigning, he still makes it back to vote in items that are important for his state.
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031770817111

Cheney is the senate prez.  Here you will find who acted as senate prez during the last 4 years (current up to two weeks ago, 10.5.04) when Cheney's ass wasn't there: http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/10/6/132551/259
... and before you knock the site as being biased, check the source... The Congressional Record! (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/index.html)

Mr. Cheney can go fuck himself with his bullshit lies!

VOTE FOR KERRY/EDWARDS ON NOVEMBER 2ND!


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Thanks for doing the fact finding for me.  I didn't have the desire to go research this one. 

eS El Duque:
my buddy (who lives here in canada)...got a voting thing from america asking to send in his vote..becuase he was born in america (same as his parents)...he's voting for Bush and i asked why?..he said "its my way of saying 'fuck the world and america!'"


lol

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