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Do Americans who are voting Kerry vote for him for any reason besides...
7even:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on October 21, 2004, 10:11:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 21, 2004, 07:58:47 AM ---Jamal, Jamal, Jamal.. all he can do is bringing the same stupid quote up over and over again.
Yet the quote isnt considering the topic as such, it just tries to show how I contradict myself.
And yet again, I dont contradict myself cause I dont talk about all states.
-and you ask me if I can read.
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You said "The small states arent considered either way cause they always vote for republicans".
Now let's break this down.
they = the small states
always vote for republicans
Where does it say that you're referring to "some, but not all small states". Let me guess: You wrote it, but it's in another thread. LOL
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where does it say I was referring to literally all states? you cant find that either.
my point was that each system leaves a few countries more out than others.. which made your argument invalid.
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 22, 2004, 05:08:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on October 21, 2004, 10:11:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on October 21, 2004, 07:58:47 AM ---Jamal, Jamal, Jamal.. all he can do is bringing the same stupid quote up over and over again.
Yet the quote isnt considering the topic as such, it just tries to show how I contradict myself.
And yet again, I dont contradict myself cause I dont talk about all states.
-and you ask me if I can read.
--- End quote ---
You said "The small states arent considered either way cause they always vote for republicans".
Now let's break this down.
they = the small states
always vote for republicans
Where does it say that you're referring to "some, but not all small states". Let me guess: You wrote it, but it's in another thread. LOL
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where does it say I was referring to literally all states? you cant find that either.
my point was that each system leaves a few countries more out than others.. which made your argument invalid.
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Are you gonna deny this later also? LOL you fuckin idiot.
And by the way, when you say "the small states", in the literal sense, that means you're referring to all small states.
For example, if I were to say "Germans are stupid", I'd be referring to all Germans; however, if I were to say "Germans like 7even are stupid", then I'd be classifying a specific group.
Now shut up and learn your place. I've proven you wrong about 12 times in 2 threads. That's a record.
Shallow:
Hey Jamal, from what I've read 7even has made it clear through his posts that his quarrel with the US system is that the state counts more than the vote, and the individual vote with in that state that has a different vote than the majority is a powerless vote. He is saying that the each vote should go directly to the end. A candidate should win based on getting the most total votes, not winning the most states.
Personally I feel that it should move closer to a democracy than it currently is. In a pure Democracy the people should vote on each bill and major decision, and they should only be able to vote by passing a competency test to show that they are aware of what they are voting for. This way, only the interested and intelligent will vote, and interest and intelligence will be encouranged as a whole. This would take time to establish, but in the long run the country (any country) would benefit. i'm not sure how pratical that is, but it would be the best system. This way decisions are not left up to some rich guy that breaks all the promises he made to get the chance to make all the decisions. The results from each decision would be visible to the public at all times. Failure to comply with the decision would result in criminal charges. This would eliminate politicians.
*Jamal*:
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 22, 2004, 08:08:27 PM ---In a pure Democracy the people should vote on each bill and major decision, and they should only be able to vote by passing a competency test to show that they are aware of what they are voting for. This way, only the interested and intelligent will vote, and interest and intelligence will be encouranged as a whole.
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LMAO... please tell me that was a joke....
LOL one part contradicts the other. Is it a pure democracy if it doesn't allow unintelligent people like 7even to vote? How would the Harbingers of the world feel if they lived in a democracy that didn't allow them to vote? LOLLLLL
Shallow:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on October 22, 2004, 08:17:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 22, 2004, 08:08:27 PM ---In a pure Democracy the people should vote on each bill and major decision, and they should only be able to vote by passing a competency test to show that they are aware of what they are voting for. This way, only the interested and intelligent will vote, and interest and intelligence will be encouranged as a whole.
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LMAO... please tell me that was a joke....
LOL one part contradicts the other. Is it a pure democracy if it doesn't allow unintelligent people like 7even to vote? How would the Harbingers of the world feel if they lived in a democracy that didn't allow them to vote? LOLLLLL
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I stated what a pure democarcy was, then I gave an example of how I think it should be played out, to avoid ignorant decisions. In ancient Greece every citizen was completely aware of what was going on politically. I feel that my idea would bring people closer to becoming completely aware as a whole. I never intended to imply that a pure democracy was one where only the smart vote. I just don't think any one should vote if they have no knowledge of what they are voting for. Sorry for the confusion.
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