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Some thoughts on fasting

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STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER:
ive done this every year since i was about 10  question to lincon did you convert to islam and how long have you been a muslim

*Jamal*:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on November 25, 2004, 07:47:41 AM ---LMAO this is way too easy..


--- Quote ---I don't feel any "different" now, it's something you get used to when you do it for so many years. When I was younger, I fasted because it was part of my religion and my parents kind of expected me to. [...]It's harder at the beginning, but as time goes on, it gets easier and actually becomes ordinary. Personally, I don't find fasting physically challenging, but there are some who do. The only time I can remember it being difficult was when I would have football or soccer practice/games while fasting. [...]To answer your question of why muslims fast, it is basically a way to put yourself in the position of someone who is poor and doesn't have food. You basically feel their "pain" in a lesser extent. [...] So, basically I put myself in someone else's shoes to feel what they go through (not to the same degree), and then I do something to help someone who goes through it. I really don't see how people can make retarded, narrow-minded comments like "god doesn't want them to enjoy life", when in fact, you're doing something to help someone.
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LoL.. I dont even have to add anything.. why the fuck does your religion want you to FEEL PAIN for christ's sake? So a good muslim is supposed to FEEL PAIN? What more need I say? Anyways, good to know. Seriously, if you don't recognize your contradictions and your hypocrisy you can't be very smart.

Oh... and with fasting, you don't help ANYONE. Poor muslims in the middle-east aren't helped the slightest little bit with dudes like you fasting. What a lame excuse.

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You're obviously not a bright one, so I think I need to have little explanations for everything, since you can't read between the lines or add 2 and 2. First of all, there is a reason why I put quotation marks around the word pain... because I don't actually feel "pain". Also, you take out one line and disregard everything else. You say I don't help anyone? I help myself. I stated that it teaches self-control, restraint, and discipline. Then I help poor Muslims in the Middle East by sharing some of my money. The actual fasting doesn't help them, but what I do after having placed myself in their shoes does. You decided to ignore that part of my statement as well. Looks like the only way you can try to justify your points is by only reading what you want to read. You say "God" doesn't want people to have fun, and I replied by telling you that I don't do the things you consider fun because I choose not to, not because God told me not to. Not only was your statement fuckin' stupid for the reasons mentioned in my previous post, but it also went down the drain with the explanation just given.

*Jamal*:
By the way, I'm not going to blame you for not understanding what it means to feel one's "pain" (especially when I made it clear with quotation marks), since you don't even know the difference between expression and impression. It's not your fault, English is not your native language, so it's all good. It's just dumb of you when you say shit like "I have the expression" and try to argue. Shutting up will work in your benefit.

*Jamal*:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on November 25, 2004, 07:16:10 AM ---Well then tell me what is the point in not drinking for instance. Why? Good it's your choice, lol, whatever makes you sleep at night. Yet I know Muslims who don't drink cause they want to be good muslims. They fuck though, which is contradicting as a motherfucker.
So if religion isnt the reason why you've chosen to do or not to things, how come you're fasting? You aint got no money or what? - and there we are contradicting ourselves again..

Great to act like I said it was created to prevent ppl from having fun because it isnt fun.. that's just twisting it all up in order to sound smart to the retards who won't realize it, just like pointing out typos is. You think I don't notice if someone types necaccaryly instead of necessarily? However, I won't bother making a post just to point it out and ridicule the respective person. You do though, and therefore you think you're so smart. Do you act in real life like that? Cause if you do, I have to assume you ask veterans in wheel-chairs for a race, and when they say no you feel like Maurice Green when he got the 60-metre world record...

Certain rules of religion usually seem to be there in order to prevent people from doing something. Sometimes, it's sensible, like not killing somebody or not stealing or what the hell. Other times, however, I can't see any purpose except preventing people from leading a happy life. Like telling it's bad to have sex unless its only purpose is reproduction, what the hell..
Your weak ass comparisons ... school, doctors, cops, courts ... all have their respective purposes. Like education & helping people. What the hell is the purpose of things like not ever drinking/trying alcohol, not having sex unless youre married, fasting etc if not sticking to principles your religion gave you? And why would your religion say you should do it? Why? I understand why you shouldnt kill dudes and shit, but why the fuck this?
The reason is to limit your fun. Now don't come around with stupid shit like "I can have fun without drugs" or bullshit like this. Why won't jews eat pork? Why won't muslims eat certain meat? Why would buddhists not eat any kind of animals..we all know those animals dont have the souls of former humans or shit like this,  Lol, so why? ... I could go on for years.

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A lot of people choose not to drink simply because there are no real benefits to it. Some find it fun, some don't. However, the fact is that the negative effects of drinking outweigh the positive ones. It inhibits you from thinking in the same that you would if you were sober. It causes some people to make wrong decisions.

You ask why Jews and Muslims don't eat pork. This question has less to do with questioning religion than it does with your ignorance. If you knew anything about religion, the reason why things were outlined the way they are, etc then you wouldn't have to ask questions like this and bash religion. I'm Muslim, so I'll tell you why Muslims don't eat pork. When an animal is slaughtered, vital organs could be damaged, blood could spread throughout the flesh, etc. and Muslims are prohibited from consuming any blood, which is why Muslims consume Halal meat. Halal meat (very similar to Kosher for Jews) is clean because the when meat is Halal, it means the animal was cut across the neck (jugular vein), so this causes a total loss of blood from the animal's body and no organs are injured. Since you're an idiot, I'll inform you that blood contains uric acid which is bad for our health. A pig can't be slaughtered at the neck simply because it doesn't have one... natural anatomy. Also, a pig excretes only 2% of its uric acid, so most of it remains in the body, which is why so many people in the past got sick from eating pork. It has to be very well prepared and thoroughly cooked (as does all meat, but in comparison the uric acid in pigs is a lot higher). It's also a scientific fact that people who consume pork face a greater risk of Rheumatism than people who don't. Any other dumb, ignorant questions?

*Jamal*:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on November 25, 2004, 07:19:19 AM ---
One funny thing is how you always have to rely on obvious typos like this to make yourself feel better.
But anyway, LoL I must have really got to you with that religion stuff. Disillusioned?  :-\

Just stay out of this thread, if you can't stand criticism on your religion, or in this case religion as such.


HAHA... now you signed off? Already giving up for the moment, and trying to work something out for later?
I'm sure so, since you're obviously not the type of poster who'd log off in such a moment for another reason, you know it, I know it, the whole board knows it.

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Now you're trying to make yourself feel better by wrongfully assuming that I signed off because of your posts. If you check, you hadn't made your posts before I signed off. Funny how you act like you know me so well... just because I occasionally son you, doesn't mean you know me...

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