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Quote from: Lincoln The Mental Traveller on November 04, 2004, 08:58:15 AM^^That's what I would have said.Mauzip, I don't think you understand the Israel/Palestine issue very well considering all your posts I've read on it.You support palestine, and were happy Bush won? You make no sense. I don't think you understand American politics well... based on all your posts I've read.
^^That's what I would have said.Mauzip, I don't think you understand the Israel/Palestine issue very well considering all your posts I've read on it.
I think it might open doors for peace in that area and that the next Palestian leader will be more open to negotiate.
Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 10, 2006, 03:16:12 AMiraq would just get annexed by iranThat would be a great solution. If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
iraq would just get annexed by iran
Sharon poisoned himdont you remember the thread here that stated that Sharon wants to assassinate Arafat.. there you have it
Quote from: Ant on November 04, 2004, 10:33:19 PMQuote from: Lincoln The Mental Traveller on November 04, 2004, 08:58:15 AM^^That's what I would have said.Mauzip, I don't think you understand the Israel/Palestine issue very well considering all your posts I've read on it.You support palestine, and were happy Bush won? You make no sense. I don't think you understand American politics well... based on all your posts I've read. I'm not happy Bush won, but I'd rather him over Kerry. They both have strong pro-Israeli views so that wouldn't tip the balance either way for me.
i disagree bush has been very leanient towards israel remember that "new realities on the ground" speach he made about israeli settlements which is something no other president has said and contradict international law which has said they are illegal from the start and he even approved new settlements in the west bank. He has also gone along the same route of vetoing anything critising israel in the UN which send the wrong message to the world, especially when america is so keen to use the UN to place sanctions on sudan etc (don't get me wrong i'm all for punishing the sudaneese goverment but the message he is giving is sudan is bad, the whole world can see israel is bad and they have created way more refugees but their our friends so thats let them be) Bush has also let israel carry out bloody opporations in palestine with minimal voice of restraint and not to mention allowing them to buldoze down thousands of homes farms and schools.
Quote from: Don Rizzle on November 05, 2004, 05:12:43 PMi disagree bush has been very leanient towards israel remember that "new realities on the ground" speach he made about israeli settlements which is something no other president has said and contradict international law which has said they are illegal from the start and he even approved new settlements in the west bank. He has also gone along the same route of vetoing anything critising israel in the UN which send the wrong message to the world, especially when america is so keen to use the UN to place sanctions on sudan etc (don't get me wrong i'm all for punishing the sudaneese goverment but the message he is giving is sudan is bad, the whole world can see israel is bad and they have created way more refugees but their our friends so thats let them be) Bush has also let israel carry out bloody opporations in palestine with minimal voice of restraint and not to mention allowing them to buldoze down thousands of homes farms and schools.He didnt only buldoze down thousands of homes farm and schools. He sent back his troops from Gaza. And he almost lost the power in the Parliament because of that. It was the opposition to "save" his ass. The thing you have to understand is that Bush is making a war against TERRORISM. Now NONE in Palestina (i mean their leaders, from Arafat to the new ones) has EVER said that terrorism is wrong and that it's wrong to "use" it against Israel (or USA). NONE has said that to use kamikazees (even children) is wrong. None got the balls to say that a war of religion is unacceptable simply because they aint fighting a war about religion. NONE has ever recognized Israel as a Nation (actually 18 from 25 nations of the Arab Confederation doesnt even picture Israel in the maps). None has ever said they'll stop terrorism so they can make peace. And, the thing i add, NONE CONTROLS TERRORISM. Not even Arafat (that's why i dont give a fuck he's dead. Actually i'm happy he died for a natural reason, when someone dies like that, you cant do nothing but to say "RIP"). That's the reason why peace is not possible at the moment. And that's the reason why Bush cant support them or defend them. Cause until they'll make distance from terrorism, they'll be terrorists. And i agree with that and with Sharon/Bush on this one. You know what i mean? Plus remember Bush is the President of the USA, not of Israel. He's not responsable for what Sharon does. P.S. I'm not pro-Israel, i'm neutral in this shit. Plus i'm Italian, and Italy is well known for being "friend" of Palestina since forever. So..
Bomber's family condemn militants The bomb was detonated in a shop in a busy Tel Aviv market The mother of a teenage suicide bomber who blew himself up and killed three Israelis in Tel Aviv has criticised the militants who recruited him. More than 30 others were wounded when 16-year-old Amer al-Fahr detonated about 5kg of explosives in a shop in the Israeli city's busy Carmel market. The leftist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine said one of its members had carried out the attack. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was among those to condemn the bombing.
Israel is failing in its duty to avoid innocent civilian casualties, UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has said. Mr Straw said the Israeli Government were also failing to meet their legal obligation to ensure responses to terrorism were proportionate. He was speaking as Israel widened a two-week operation in Gaza. The minister said he recognised the operation was in response to Qassam rocket attacks but it had killed 115 Palestinians, including many children.
Let's face it: Arafat was a nobody. He controlled nothing NO MORE. [..] Arafat was not the leader he used to be, man. No more. He was just an old man who lost his political power.
And, the thing i add, NONE CONTROLS TERRORISM. Not even Arafat (that's why i dont give a fuck he's dead. Actually i'm happy he died for a natural reason, when someone dies like that, you cant do nothing but to say "RIP").