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What will be the next big trend in rap?
Kill:
--- Quote from: Paradox The Bilateral Metaphor on November 10, 2004, 12:43:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kill on November 10, 2004, 11:37:20 AM ---and paradox, ain't that wishful thinking, kinda? i mean, i dunno how you see that coming...
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yep, i was just playing...i dont realistically think that will ever happen...not unless something drastic happens
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yeah, but what concretely? the business and its structure can hardly be changed drastically. still i think people tend to dramatize and act like the situation is like creativity, sumthin fresh -> no major deals. that's not true either, people like nas or outkast actually make great and creative music and move major units at the same time. of course that's just like a chosen few and you will always have the ja rules, chingys, j-kwons etc. and they will always be the vast majority of artists appealing to a large audience...that's the way i see it
Leggy Hendrix:
--- Quote from: Kill on November 10, 2004, 01:36:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paradox The Bilateral Metaphor on November 10, 2004, 12:43:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kill on November 10, 2004, 11:37:20 AM ---and paradox, ain't that wishful thinking, kinda? i mean, i dunno how you see that coming...
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yep, i was just playing...i dont realistically think that will ever happen...not unless something drastic happens
--- End quote ---
yeah, but what concretely? the business and its structure can hardly be changed drastically. still i think people tend to dramatize and act like the situation is like creativity, sumthin fresh -> no major deals. that's not true either, people like nas or outkast actually make great and creative music and move major units at the same time. of course that's just like a chosen few and you will always have the ja rules, chingys, j-kwons etc. and they will always be the vast majority of artists appealing to a large audience...that's the way i see it
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yeah, i mean, im not saying that there are no good/creative artists on majors who stay true to themselves and release the music that they want to...because there definitely are...i'd say Nas and Outkast are probably 2 of the best examples of that...its just ridiculous to me that guys like chingy, j kwon etc etc are on major labels, making serious money and moving serious units making music that basically has very little substance...when there are guys who make great music, with thought-provoking lyrics, dope beats and so on who wont be heard by the majority because its not whats made "fashionable" and its so different from the majority of stuff that gets played on the radio and shown on mtv...i mean they do get recognition within the industry but often they dont see the level of success that they deserve...just my thoughts...
Bramsterdam (see ya):
--- Quote from: Paradox The Bilateral Metaphor on November 10, 2004, 07:13:06 AM ---ok then the best of the current underground will get the mainstream recognition that they deserve...maybe they will not still be considered underground, but they will retain their integrity and not be pressured into selling out by the record companies etc...
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that'd be cool I guess..
but I dont know if I'd want that to happen.. dunno if I'd like it better if underground stayed underground like it is now instead of goin mainstream.. dunno.
Primo:
raggaeton is garbage i could never ever ever ever ever get into that shit. I would rather listen to britney spears..
Kill:
--- Quote from: Paradox The Bilateral Metaphor on November 10, 2004, 01:52:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kill on November 10, 2004, 01:36:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paradox The Bilateral Metaphor on November 10, 2004, 12:43:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kill on November 10, 2004, 11:37:20 AM ---and paradox, ain't that wishful thinking, kinda? i mean, i dunno how you see that coming...
--- End quote ---
yep, i was just playing...i dont realistically think that will ever happen...not unless something drastic happens
--- End quote ---
yeah, but what concretely? the business and its structure can hardly be changed drastically. still i think people tend to dramatize and act like the situation is like creativity, sumthin fresh -> no major deals. that's not true either, people like nas or outkast actually make great and creative music and move major units at the same time. of course that's just like a chosen few and you will always have the ja rules, chingys, j-kwons etc. and they will always be the vast majority of artists appealing to a large audience...that's the way i see it
--- End quote ---
yeah, i mean, im not saying that there are no good/creative artists on majors who stay true to themselves and release the music that they want to...because there definitely are...i'd say Nas and Outkast are probably 2 of the best examples of that...its just ridiculous to me that guys like chingy, j kwon etc etc are on major labels, making serious money and moving serious units making music that basically has very little substance...when there are guys who make great music, with thought-provoking lyrics, dope beats and so on who wont be heard by the majority because its not whats made "fashionable" and its so different from the majority of stuff that gets played on the radio and shown on mtv...i mean they do get recognition within the industry but often they dont see the level of success that they deserve...just my thoughts...
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well you might find it ridiculous, but it is actually logical. The music that sells is not the most intelligent and thought-porovoking, but the most entertaining music, and the average listener is more entertained by "Hood Hop" than by Immortal Tech or Slug saying something that might be smart. That's what makes Nas and Outkast so great, they manage to combine this mass appeal with thoughtful lyrics and musical creativity (especially in the case of Outkast), but the latter are just not the main criterias when it comes to pushing units and making money. Great pop artists are those who still include this shit in their method of selling well
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