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16 year old son kills mothers rapist with bat, sentenced to 3 years prison
white Boy:
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on November 10, 2004, 08:52:49 PM ---I would've done the same. I give this guy mad props. I wouldn't even mind the 3 years.
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acbaylove:
Anyway..
--- Quote from: *Jamal* on November 10, 2004, 08:52:49 PM ---I would've done the same. I give this guy mad props. I wouldn't even mind the 3 years.
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THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.
Ozir:
I agree with Antonio about the distinction between lawyers and judges and not having people imposing their own "street" justice... but I also see the emotion involved in this crime. It's a fucked up situation all around.
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: Ozir on November 11, 2004, 08:31:54 AM ---I agree with Antonio about the distinction between lawyers and judges and not having people imposing their own "street" justice... but I also see the emotion involved in this crime. It's a fucked up situation all around.
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Obviously it is, and nobody can neglect it. But let's try to look at it from another perspective, maybe more interesting (since everybody agrees it's a fucked up situation): the legal aspect. What is better, as a message? Is the "I wouldn't even mind the 3 years" a message you can give to other 16 years old guys? Is the "he did a wrong thing, so i killed him" a message you can give? I dont think so. The law should educate. And the "criminals" should learn from their mistakes. "Minding" about the sentence.
Shallow:
I can't believe so many people think this guy did the right thing, and should get less time. He should get more time. The man wasn't convicted of raping the mother, he was accused. How do we know the mom wasn't full of shit. How do we know it was really that guy that did it. There have been caeses of women mistaking the rapist. The biggest reason I don't believe in the death penalty is because of innocent people being put to death based on evidence that later turns out to be wrong.
The fact this kid can go out and do this and get nothing also promotes taking the law into your own hands and vigilantes everywhere wil be inspired. Even if the guy did rape the kid's mom, it's not his right to end this man's life. Society is built on structure and rules. If you breakthese rules you pay the costs for breaking them. If society turns its head and says it's okay to break the rules in your case then chaos would follow. Every nutcase in the world who thinks someone deseves to die for something a person did to them would go out and act upon it, because it's okay to do so. This kid is going to go to jail thinking that he did the right thing, and he'll come out a hero, and the only thing at fault is the system for not understanding. Well that's bullshit.
People have this tendency to put family before what is right, and that is wrong. People will do things for their family members not based on principle but based on nepotism. How many people jump the gun everyday because they are told from a family member that this happened, and fail to see the truth. I'm not saying the mom was talking shit, but if she was there would be no difference because the kid would jump to conclusions and not even attempt to figure out the truth. If the case were reversed and the kid's older brother raped someone else's mother, and that mother's son came with a bat to his brother, would this kid join in and help because his brother did something wrong, or would he attack the other kid with the bat to save his brother? The kid would look well into both sides of the story and probably take his brother's even if he did rape the woman. People are fucked up this way. It can never change. Plato said the solution was to take children away from siblings and parents and raise them in government controlled institions, but he never actually wanted to put it in practise. There is no solution really, because Plato's theory would have negative affects on other aspects of society and he knew this.
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