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Em, who again said that LeBron James is overrated as hell?
acbaylove:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on November 13, 2004, 09:41:54 AM ---Like I said, Lakers are still in the process of becoming a team.
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Of course. We welcomed Shaq in L.A. back in 1996 starting the "Shaq era". We won our first trophy after 4 years.
Now it's the first year of the "Kobe era". Let's give him at least the same time (and a better supporting staff).
We will have some space cap in 2 years, and a lot in 3 years.
I say in 4 years we will be ready for a Championship.
7even:
--- Quote from: Antonio on November 13, 2004, 11:58:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on November 13, 2004, 09:41:54 AM ---Like I said, Lakers are still in the process of becoming a team.
--- End quote ---
Of course. We welcomed Shaq in L.A. back in 1996 starting the "Shaq era". We won our first trophy after 4 years.
Now it's the first year of the "Kobe era". Let's give him at least the same time (and a better supporting staff).
We will have some space cap in 2 years, and a lot in 3 years.
I say in 4 years we will be ready for a Championship.
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something you shouldnt forget is that Kobe is 30 (!) in 4 years.
Kobe is in his prime now. He wont get any better.
acbaylove:
Penny Hardaway in his second season in the NBA.
PPG 20.9
FG% .512
3P% .349
APG 7.2
RPG 4.4
STE 1.69
42 points vs. New Jersey 11/08/95
19 assists vs. Boston 4/13/95
Named to the All-NBA First Team.
NBA All Stars Starter.
Winner of the gold medal during the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta.
7even:
that's almost like LeBron's first season man... and it wont have anything on LeBron's 2nd season.
--- Quote ---# Named 2003-04 NBA Rookie of the Year becoming the first Cavalier and youngest player to ever receive the award
# One of three rookies in NBA history to average at least 20 points, five rebounds and five assists in one season (O. Robertson, M. Jordan)
# Scored a career-high 41 points versus New Jersey on March 27 while dishing out a career-high 13 assists
# Winner of the bronze medal during the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens.
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PPG 20.9
FG% .417
APG 5.9
RPG 5.5
STE 1.65
You figure, LeBron's first season almost matches Penny's second season.
In addition to that LeBron was a extremely young rookie.
acbaylove:
What i mean is that Penny looked awesome in his first years. Then he got injured, then he lost his confidence, now he's just a wack SG who's paid 15m $ per year. You know what i mean? You never know. You cant say how a player will be in 10 years. Look at Kobe Bryant. He strarted with all them airballs against Utah, remember them? He started on the bench, and Jones was the starter. Phil even asked to trade him in 2000! Then he took Lakers over his shoulder and he became the man you most wanna see with the ball in his hands in the 4th quarter. You gotta give LeBron a couple of years and more time to learn the game. Yes, he's fantastic! Yes, he's in the top5 SG's of the league. But let's give him some time. He plays in a wack team, where he'll never win a title. We gotta see if he'll move from there, and if he'll have one day a team built around him and built to win. And you gotta see him finally playing in the play-offs, TO WIN. Cause it's totally different from playing in the Cavs, trust me.
Anyway Lakers have now a tied record, with a big W in Houston, after 5 straight on the road. That's a surprise for me, it's a great record considering the skills of the team and the absence of Divac, George, Medvedenko and, let me hope about it, Karl Malone.
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