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Eminem's Problems (and Encore's Problems)
Ras Kass' Toothpick:
I mean listen to a Nas CD because he mixes up his content, gives you variety and does it very well.
Just look at God's Son..."Dance", "Book Of Rhymes", "Last Real Nigga Alive", "I Can", "Get Down", etc.
Versatility
GangstaBoogy:
--- Quote from: Rampant on November 12, 2004, 08:38:25 PM ---You dont think hes grown as an artist?
Listen to the SSLP and then listen to the EMShow.
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yeah from SSLP to The Eminem Show he did. but back in the SSLP Em was flow hella rapid, he sounded hungry. after that, he was just sayin shiet to make people mad. Eminem Show he grew but now...4th album...still talkin about his mom, girl, daughter, how tough his life was. like homie said he need to take notes from Nas
--- Quote from: Jome on November 12, 2004, 08:51:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on November 12, 2004, 06:35:38 PM ---try some storytelling, some concept records or other themes/topics. Try studying a Nas CD.
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Dunno if Eminem on some abstract multi-religious "I could be Jesus" shit would be a good idea.. :-\
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lol funny I guess you can find wrong in any artist beefin with 50 huh?
lain_83:
--- Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on November 12, 2004, 06:35:38 PM ---The first problem is easy to solve. STOP MAKING THESE 20 TRACK ALBUMS. Cut them to 12 tracks and the albums will improve greatly.
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i agree. just look at 3:16 the 9th edition: 10 tracks and every single one is dope. fuck fillers. most of them are just an opportunity for the label to introduce some wack ass rappers... >:(
--- Quote from: Ras Kass' Toothpick on November 12, 2004, 06:35:38 PM ---The second problem is having these useless skits.
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while there might be a few skits which are able to support the following track in a positive way by setting the atmosphere, the majority seems to be total crap.
T-Dogg:
Yeah, some new topics could definitely help him. But it ain't that easy to just come up with some cool concept for a song that suits him too.
Encore is kinda weird in my opinion... Tracks like Never Enough, Mosh (that grew on me like a muthafucka), Yellow Brick Road, Like Toy Soldiers, Encore and Mockingbird are on that high Eminem standard (although, as it was said, some tracks suffer from the same ol' topics he used to do). Then the middle of the album is complete shit - not just on Eminem's standards, but in general - Big Weenie, Just Lose It, My 1st Single, Rain Man, complete shit. (Apart from Rain Man's beat, Dre did a good job there). Then there's some mediocre stuff, that's nowhere near Em's best material though. It's kinda funny, a couple tracks like Never Enough and Encore I absolutely love, some stuff is filler and the rest is absolute garbage.
Maybe if he took a couple years off from rapping, just manage the label and hone his production skills, then come back - then we might hear something special. It might be, as it was put at MTV.com, that Em has entered a "comfort zone".
TeddyGramz:
let da man do wat he does, its crazy how ppl kan hate or tell sum1 wat dey need 2 do wit they talent. take it how eva u want it, but wud u ratha have me diss u or wud u ratha sell 7,000,000 albums???
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