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Aid worker Margaret Hassan Murdered in Iraq

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*Jamal*:
When a Palestinian blows himself up, I think it's wrong, but I also try to see it from his perspective. If I had lost my whole family because some fuckers "accidently" bombed our home, I don't know what else I would have to live for. To some people family is everything. I'm not in that position, so I don't know exactly what I'd do, but going to any lengths just to harm those responsible might be something I'd consider. Who knows...

By the way, in Islam, suicide is a great sin. There is no martyrdom in suicide. Corrupt leaders use religion as a tool to persuade brainwashed people, with nothing else to live for, that they will gain something. I don't have any respect for these people, but at the same time I feel bad for someone who has been put in that position. Imagine one day your home being bulldozed in a land grab; your family dead because of bombs being dropped on your town; and only some fucker with money is willing to "take care" of you, so you follow his lead and believe in the promises he offers you because hey, what do you have to lose when you've already lost everything. Life simply doesn't matter anymore for some of 'em.

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: *Jamal* on November 18, 2004, 09:52:47 AM ---When a Palestinian blows himself up, I think it's wrong, but I also try to see it from his perspective. If I had lost my whole family because some fuckers "accidently" bombed our home, I don't know what else I would have to live for. To some people family is everything. I'm not in that position, so I don't know exactly what I'd do, but going to any lengths just to harm those responsible might be something I'd consider. Who knows... By the way, in Islam, suicide is a great sin. There is no martyrdom in suicide. Corrupt leaders use religion as a tool to persuade brainwashed people, with nothing else to live for, that they will gain something. I don't have any respect for these people, but at the same time I feel bad for someone who has been put in that position. Imagine one day your home being bulldozed in a land grab; your family dead because of bombs being dropped on your town; and only some fucker with money is willing to "take care" of you, so you follow his lead and believe in the promises he offers you because hey, what do you have to lose when you've already lost everything. Life simply doesn't matter anymore for some of 'em.
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I agree with you, but there's one thing i really hate. What about kids? They also sent kids to blows themselves. What can you see from a kid's perspective? There's nothing inside a kid who makes him wish the death of himself and other men imo. Kids should not be used. And, to back on topic, women should not be killed. This is just a complete nonsense.

*Jamal*:
Women should not be killed? What about when it's the other way around? For example, an Israeli soldier running into a home, sees a woman sitting in the corner holding on to her kids, and shoots her. A cameraman captures the scene on video, and his government prohibits him from showing it. Fucked up shit, if you ask me.
Soldiers raping women? That's ok, since they're soldiers and it's a government sponsoring the war, right? I mean, it's part of "war". Fuck that and fuck all these double standards. I think it's fucked up those guys killed that woman, but it's also fucked up how blind people are to their own government's atrocities.

acbaylove:
Ok, i hear you, but still.. the stupid thing is that those idiots are not retaliating against Americans. They just killed an innocent woman. They taped the execution, they dissed her, they menaced Americans, they thanked Allah and they probably hided her body and for what? Are Americans changing their plans? No. It's just a stupid execution, man. You wanna retaliate against Americans? Go kill their soldiers, not a woman! Shit they kidnapped 2 Itlalian women from the Red Cross too! It's a nonsense! Women from the Red Cross who works in Badgad's Hospitals? Are you joking?? Why the hell they did that? To fight who? To defend who? And it's the same thing about Palestina: you wanna retaliate against Israeli? Go killing them and dont send kids goddamn! That's fucked up. That's wrooooong! I hear you when you say the other side of the "story", but still.. i cant accept those things. There's no "from their prespective". Shit is just a nonsense.

*Jamal*:
Yeah, I already said I disagreed with all that. I didn't justify them sending kids or killing women. You're arguing against something that hasn't been said.

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