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When and Why did RnB and Rock n Roll become to different genres?

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Shallow:
I don't get it. Rhythm and Blues was a direct descendant of the Blues. It was a faster, funner, slightly more juvenile version of the Blues. It started getting popular among blacks after WWII. Alan Freed became one of, if not the, first DJs to play it to the masses, taking it out of the black neighborhoods and into the suburbs. He soon changed the name to Rock n Roll, or Rock and Roll. Artists like Ike Turner, Ray Charles, and Little Richard emerged into the national scene. Elvis Presley came a long and introduced rockabilly (rock and roll hillbilly) to the masses. This made everyone associated with Rock n Roll a bigger star. While Elvis's rockabilly blended the rhythm and blues that had been a big part of the Memphis life he came from, and Country Western, many of the black artists didn't adopt the country sound and were still considered Rock n Roll. Chuck Berry being a prime example. Jackie Wilson was a huge influence on Elvis and many other rockers. Many of his hits came from a song writing team that included Berry Gordy, who later founded Motown Records. Barret Strong, another rocker, joined Motown as a key song writer, yet history looks back at Motown as RnB and not Rock. By the late 60s the British Invasion and Bob Dylan had already changed Rock n Roll drastically. Led Zeppelin turned traditional blues songs into hard rock anthems and Black Sabbath took that hard sound to another extreme. Neither Zeppelin nor Sabbath are looked at as RnB, and neither Marvin Gaye nor the Temptations are seen as Rock n Roll, but both sets of artists come from the same genre. Why is Elvis Rock n Roll and Marvin Gaye RnB?

eS El Duque:
I don't have the answer, seriousily.  :-\

bjax:
This has been bugging me too.  If you're a white singer than you're pop/rock.  If you're black then you're R&B.  Makes no sense.

Kill:
you got a point Shallow, but the obvious part of the answer should be clear to you, too: People associate a certain sound with a certain style and it is of course not really the easy way to take in account the whole history of the music a band plays every time in order to say what genre they are, you'll just listen to it and, going from what it sounds like, match it with the word commonly used for such music. You won't say Snoop Dogg is Rock'n'Roll if somebody asks you what kinda music he does, yet you could argue that he is

white Boy:

--- Quote from: bjax on November 26, 2004, 06:10:00 PM ---This has been bugging me too. If you're a white singer than you're pop/rock. If you're black then you're R&B. Makes no sense.

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