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More proof white artists owe a debt to African American culture

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SlickPants:
This is ridiculous.  Music is a consistently evolving art form, and can't be confined to specific groups or stereotypes -- everybody borrows from everyone else.

NobodyButMe:

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--- Quote from: Hip-Hop Is Dead on November 28, 2004, 10:37:22 PM ---There are the obvious example's like Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock, who have had to turn to African American culture to remain relevant and sell records.  Alot of people don't realize that groups like the Chemical Brothers also stole their sounds from hip-hop.  If you don't believe me, listen to Dre's beat he made back in the early 90's for the DOC's "Portrait of a Masterpiece".  The influence is obvious.

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Your right when you say that "White Music" has taken and used elements of the black culture ("Black Music"). However you fail to mention that you can aso say that "BlackMusic" has taken from "White Music". Does Rap (Dre,Quik,Timbaland just to name a few) owe middle eastern culture a debt for all the sampling they did when that was hot?. I have no doubt that you could sit here all day if you wanted and compare what culture influenced what others cultures music. ITs music...an artform. As hard as people try to pigeonhole or label the styles or cultures or whatnot there will never be a purely white,black,asian,hispanic or whatever type of music.Its people like you that cant just enjoy the music without trying to put a label on it and keepin old stereotypes alive.


--- Quote from: Hip-Hop Is Dead on November 28, 2004, 10:37:22 PM --- But we must not forget that when Rolling Stones does their top 100 songs of the Century list, they are showing prejudice to their race by selecting white Rock artists, and a few token R@B artists who are soft enough for them to swallow.  Still, this prejudice is understandable, because America is predominantly a white country.  Still, this prejudice must be pointed out.


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Rolling Stone is biased without question. however if The Source or Vibe magazine did a poll on any subject are you gonna tell me that it wouldnt be biaased? Rolling Stone was not created with hip-hop in mind just as The Source wasnt created with country music in mind. You see at what im gettin at here?

So basically instead of pointing fingers at whos responsible for what and helping keep racial a nd musical stereotypes in place, why dont you just enjoy music for what it is? Hip-Hop or anyother music for that matte can only die if you let it...so ask yourself are you keepin it alive or helping to kill it.

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anyways, this guy is on point. don't bitch that a non-hip hop based magazine isn't including much hip hop; and we won't bitch that a 'hip hop' magazine isn't choosing rock songs.

and you're gonna bring in limp bizkit and kid rock? as if they're these great bands that anyone even gives a shit about? wow. limp bizkit and kid rock 'stole' black culture. and they're just so 'relevant' in white culture that it's something to get your panties in a bunch about.

infinite, you're a bum. get it through your thick skull that it's music. nothing more, nothing less. if you used your arguing abilities to do something productive, you might actually get somewhere. instead, you're sitting here constantly defending yourself against a group of guys that never understands what the fuck you're talking about. do something productive. stop being angry at pointless things and do something in your own life. i don't know if i've ever seen someone actually agree with any of your points.

the world is bigger than hip hop. open your eyes.

Petey:
my mommy used to always say only people with small minds need to use big words all the time......

Don Seer:
lol..


god this guy is such a 'tard

Shallow:
Hey Infinite- The harp predates the Banjo. It dates back as far as 15,000 BC in France. Oh but I guess they stole it from blacks too. Let me ask you something; did white people create anything, or was it all stolen? Oh wait I know, white people created slavery, right?

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