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Shallow:

--- Quote from: Trauma on December 01, 2004, 07:42:31 AM ---Shallow: You're an idiot.

Compare anybody's falsetto, to Brian Wilson's falsetto.  It's an entirely different matter, nobody alive sounds like him.  Even his guy, Jeffrey Foskett that sings live with him doesn't sound on Brian's level from the 60's.  Even Jan from "Jan & Dean" who sang tons of songs like the Beach Boys, couldn't sing them the way Brian recorded the demos (Yeah, he wrote their songs too).

And No, you're again wrong, he could not sing falsetto for several years, I've got all the bootlegs, all the demos, all the things where he sounds like a fuckin' frog trying to sing, because of the damage ciggs, alcohol, and heroin had done to his voice. 

Also, Brian's not nutty enough to sit around and talk to himself all day, plus, yes, he does take commercial flights, like most people take commercial flights, first class.  He's usually just a quiet guy, he probably sat there the whole time not saying a thing. 

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Falsetto in general is easier to do. Like I said, when he sings like David Ruffin I'll be impressed. So his falsetto sounds different. Everyone's does; MJ's, Barry Gibb's, Frankie Valli's. They all sound unique. Brian trying to do any of their falsettos wouldn't sound the same and vice versa, because they have different voices. The bottom line is Ruffin is a better singer than Wilson. Personally I never liked falsettos except in rare cases. It usually sounds cheap to me. A song here and there is fine but when too many use it then it really gets annoying. It's also a nice way to hide a mediocre singing voice.

I guess if you factor in the drug use then it may be hard to do falsetto, I wouldn't know since I was never stupid to experiment with hard drugs.

I figured he was rich enough to take private jets, and popular enough to want to. With nutcase obsessed fans like you out there I would think he'd stay the hell away from public transportation.

Trauma-san:
Your knowledge of the human voice is lacking, no wonder your a springsteen fan.  Go take a fucking vocal lesson, then come back when you know a few elementary ideas about how to sing. 

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Trauma on December 01, 2004, 06:29:54 PM ---Your knowledge of the human voice is lacking, no wonder your a springsteen fan.  Go take a fucking vocal lesson, then come back when you know a few elementary ideas about how to sing. 

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Wrong again. Your pride is hurt so you resort to cheap tactics to try and seem smarter than you are. Springsteen is just as good a singer as Wilson, and Ruffin is ten times better Wilson.

Trauma-san:
LOL I looked it up.  Brian's range is 3.2 octaves.  He can hit an E7 note (falsetto).  Most average folks have a range of about 1.2 octaves... and Brian's never had vocal lessons.  If you want an idea of what an E7 sounds like, Mariah Carey hits an E7 (and then moves up to even a G7) @ the end of the her song "Emotions"... yeah, that really high crazy fucking sound in the background. 

Also, Brian somehow doesn't have any transition between his head voice, chest voice, and falsetto voice, which is uncanny, because most people can't switch from head voice to falsetto seamlessly.  Brian can in the same syllable. 

anybody who knows anything about voice knows that this guy is extremely gifted, to say Bruce Springsteen is as good of a singer is a fucking joke. 

David Ruffin is an entirely different style of singing, you can't compare the two. 

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Trauma on December 01, 2004, 06:59:15 PM ---LOL I looked it up.  Brian's range is 3.2 octaves.  He can hit an E7 note (falsetto).  Most average folks have a range of about 1.2 octaves... and Brian's never had vocal lessons.  If you want an idea of what an E7 sounds like, Mariah Carey hits an E7 (and then moves up to even a G7) @ the end of the her song "Emotions"... yeah, that really high crazy fucking sound in the background. 

Also, Brian somehow doesn't have any transition between his head voice, chest voice, and falsetto voice, which is uncanny, because most people can't switch from head voice to falsetto seamlessly.  Brian can in the same syllable. 

anybody who knows anything about voice knows that this guy is extremely gifted, to say Bruce Springsteen is as good of a singer is a fucking joke. 

David Ruffin is an entirely different style of singing, you can't compare the two. 


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The problem is that when Wilson isn't singing in falsetto he sucks. Compare his normal singing voice to Bruce's. Listen to Bruce on We Are The World (probablyt the only time you've heard him, outside of Born In The USA or Dancing in the Dark). Wilson has never and could never bring that much soul and emotion to a song. Keep in mind that falsetto means artificial. Springsteen's all real. Now if Wilson could sing any other style with any kind of talent then fine, but he can't. Like I said I don't like falsetto. I can stand it with the Barry Gibb, but that's it. Valli sings much better when he sings in his real voice.


You didn't say Mariah had a falsetto did you?

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