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Nas Sparks Controversy w/ 'Coon Picnic' Song

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SGV:

--- Quote from: Shallow on December 11, 2004, 11:23:45 AM ---

I love how you base your knowlegde of world history on lines by rappers. Real smart. Go read a fucking book. Just to clarify for you, all those light skinned latinos are very much at least half spanish. You see when Spain and America fought, the US won. If Spain won and continued to attack the US, we'd have seen an entirely different USA, or whatever it would be called. Latinos would be fill up the upper middle class, while Blacks would have been right back at the bottom. It just so happens that the whites won the battle of colonialism years before. Spain and Portugal were very prosperous inthe beginning, and portugese are just as dark as the average latino. They are reffered to as hispanic for a reason.

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Since I didn't have a book in front of me, it would've been hard to quote one, right? Just to clarify for YOU, the light skinned Latinos you see here are NOT accepted by the Spanish. Someone like me or Fat Joe or Pitbull are looked upon as trash by the Spanish, hence why we never associate with them. The Spanish filled the upper middle class, the Latinos stayed with the Blacks. So you're not saying nothing...

Shallow:

--- Quote from: SGV on December 11, 2004, 12:36:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 11, 2004, 11:23:45 AM ---

I love how you base your knowlegde of world history on lines by rappers. Real smart. Go read a fucking book. Just to clarify for you, all those light skinned latinos are very much at least half spanish. You see when Spain and America fought, the US won. If Spain won and continued to attack the US, we'd have seen an entirely different USA, or whatever it would be called. Latinos would be fill up the upper middle class, while Blacks would have been right back at the bottom. It just so happens that the whites won the battle of colonialism years before. Spain and Portugal were very prosperous inthe beginning, and portugese are just as dark as the average latino. They are reffered to as hispanic for a reason.

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Since I didn't have a book in front of me, it would've been hard to quote one, right? Just to clarify for YOU, the light skinned Latinos you see here are NOT accepted by the Spanish. Someone like me or Fat Joe or Pitbull are looked upon as trash by the Spanish, hence why we never associate with them. The Spanish filled the upper middle class, the Latinos stayed with the Blacks. So you're not saying nothing...

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Just like whites in Mobile Alabama are seen as lower level humans by whites in Greenwhich. That doesnm't mean you'd be seen as lower than blacks to the Spaniards. Let's be realistic here place, there aren't enough Spaniards to to globalize the entire States or even the colonies they had. The very few would be placed at the top, while the rest would have to be Latino. If Mexicans won the War with US, they would have taken over just about all of the deep south and west. Texas to California for sure and maybe Florida and surrounding areas and the Whites would have stayed North. All slave owners would have been taken down or fled, they hardly could have taken all their slaves, and the slave owners that were killed would have had all these slaves left over. What do you think the Mexicans would have done with theses slaves? Put them in university and give them good jobs? All black slaves left over would have been thrown to the bottom of society. The light Mexicans would be at the top, the brown in the middle and upper middle, and the blacks at the bottom. So please don't think that Latinos and Blacks are in the same boat, because they aren't. You may be pushed down by the rich whites in America, but a black population in Mexico would be just as pushed down by the Mestizos. The Amerindians would still be on their own. Also don't think the Spanish were as white as you'd think. Remember that Muslims had conquered Spain for 700 years. Quite a lot of mix breeding can go on in that time. Muslims can't enslave Muslims, but anyone who didn't convert, was forced to or tortured.

7even:

--- Quote from: SGV on December 11, 2004, 09:53:04 AM ---Latinos had nothing to do with enslaving blacks. The SPANISH did, but not Latinos. Um...Owned.

"Just like the spanish exterminating Tainos/Raping the Black and Indian women, creating Latinos" As you can see, LATINOS had nothing to do with slavery, in fact, most Latinos have Black ancestry, so why would Blacks diss Blacks for acting Latino when some come from the same vein? Ouch. Really "owned" there.

If Nas said "Fuck Latinas" I'd laugh. I don't care...Why should I? That means more Latinas for me. He wouldn't say it though, because we're similar. If he said "Fuck Blacks who act Spanish" that would be more realistic, which I still wouldn't care about because I don't associate with the Spanish. Owned...

Again, moron, you're mad because Nas makes negative comments towards Blacks and is NOT considered, but when you do it, you ARE considered racist. Owned...

Had you just stopped earlier, you wouldn't look so dumb. Closet racist....

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LoL.. *AGAIN* missing my whole point like a 5th grader and telling me *AGAIN* why blacks should love latinos and hate whites and telling me *AGAIN* that you think that I am mad cause Nas can diss blacks while I already proved you wrong in all these things, I can hardly believe you read my post.. LOL... You're worthless.

SGV:
Shallow: As a Latino who's had the unfortunate oppurtunity to be around a few Spaniards, I can tell you, they look at Mexicans, Hondurans, Salvaodreans, Guatemalans etc etc as trash. That's all that matters here. Whether we're lower than Blacks, to them, or not. That is beside the point. You two dudes are trying to justify your meaningless point by bringing up Latinos to me, but it's not doing anything but making both look dumb. What you wrote, that's just a huge what if. What if the Africans came over here on their own. What if Whites never existed. Blah blah blah. It's all a bunch of what if's man. I ain't trying to hear a what if. You don't know what the Mexicans would've done. For all you know, they would've freed the slaves.

7even: You've been owned. LOL @ You making a dumbass post, being called on it, and back peddling like a hoe.

This should end everything here. You two CANNOT say the comments that Nas said about Blacks, without looking racist, while Nas can. That frustrates you and now you've both got your panties tied in a bunch about it. You can't get everything in life, let this go. Nas has is opinions, you got yours, done deal.

7even:

--- Quote ---7even: You've been owned. LOL @ You making a dumbass post, being called on it, and back peddling like a hoe.

This should end everything here. You two CANNOT say the comments that Nas said about Blacks, without looking racist, while Nas can. That frustrates you and now you've both got your panties tied in a bunch about it. You can't get everything in life, let this go. Nas has is opinions, you got yours, done deal.
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Do you have a tumor or something? How can you ignore my posts so extremely hard? Incredible. I explained you trice why Im mad, and you STILL say that Im mad for a different reason, like if it was a fact.
How can you repress the fact that I owned you, and keep telling yourself that you owned me? Unbelieveable. When someone says "Hey, Fuck you man, you're almost as much of a retarded piece of shit as SGV is!" -  you won't be the slightest little bit offened? Have you seriously not gotten my point after like 5 different ways of explaining it?

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