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Nas Sparks Controversy w/ 'Coon Picnic' Song
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Sikotic Dat Armenian-Nigguh on December 04, 2004, 04:19:28 PM ---I speak good english and like women other than black women....awwww shit I guess I'm a coon too then lol.
Whatever, Nas got his own opinion, I don't hate him for what he says, at least he says it like a man.
It sounded like a lot of jealousy in the song as well since he attack sucessful actors like Taye Dogg and Cuba Gooding, while he still hasn't gotten over that flop Belly.
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It's not the opinions that bother me. I can deal with ignorant racists and have no problems with their stupid opinions. It's the ones that claim to be against it like Nas does and then pull shit like this. It's not only in his songs, he's an idiot in interviews too. I mean he claims this holier than thou role and he just looks so stupid when he comes out like this. What bothers me even more is when Nas fans pay attention to shit like this just because it's Nas, and really have to think about it. If Bill O'Reily called well spoken black men with non black women "coons", all these Nas fans would call him the devil. But it's okay when Nas says it. ::)
Sikotic™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2004, 06:04:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sikotic Dat Armenian-Nigguh on December 04, 2004, 04:19:28 PM ---I speak good english and like women other than black women....awwww shit I guess I'm a coon too then lol.
Whatever, Nas got his own opinion, I don't hate him for what he says, at least he says it like a man.
It sounded like a lot of jealousy in the song as well since he attack sucessful actors like Taye Dogg and Cuba Gooding, while he still hasn't gotten over that flop Belly.
--- End quote ---
It's not the opinions that bother me. I can deal with ignorant racists and have no problems with their stupid opinions. It's the ones that claim to be against it like Nas does and then pull shit like this. It's not only in his songs, he's an idiot in interviews too. I mean he claims this holier than thou role and he just looks so stupid when he comes out like this. What bothers me even more is when Nas fans pay attention to shit like this just because it's Nas, and really have to think about it. If Bill O'Reily called well spoken black men with non black women "coons", all these Nas fans would call him the devil. But it's okay when Nas says it. ::)
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Word, I feel ya man. It's a fucked up double standard.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2004, 06:04:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sikotic Dat Armenian-Nigguh on December 04, 2004, 04:19:28 PM ---I speak good english and like women other than black women....awwww shit I guess I'm a coon too then lol.
Whatever, Nas got his own opinion, I don't hate him for what he says, at least he says it like a man.
It sounded like a lot of jealousy in the song as well since he attack sucessful actors like Taye Dogg and Cuba Gooding, while he still hasn't gotten over that flop Belly.
--- End quote ---
It's not the opinions that bother me. I can deal with ignorant racists and have no problems with their stupid opinions. It's the ones that claim to be against it like Nas does and then pull shit like this. It's not only in his songs, he's an idiot in interviews too. I mean he claims this holier than thou role and he just looks so stupid when he comes out like this. What bothers me even more is when Nas fans pay attention to shit like this just because it's Nas, and really have to think about it. If Bill O'Reily called well spoken black men with non black women "coons", all these Nas fans would call him the devil. But it's okay when Nas says it. ::)
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I ain't really agreeing with the song. After all, I dated black women, I am actually a huge fan of Kobe Bryant, and etc. But I will say it's a topic talked about widely in the black communities. Hanging around black people, I hear it a lot, and I mean a lot. Black women talking about how white women take their men, black men trying to prove they are pro black by dissing those that date white women. It's funny, because in college, all the black men saying they'd only have a black girl, all of them were with white women. 2Pac was talking about the same thing in 1993, dissing Quincy Jones for marrying a white women and having fucked up mixed babies. Then 2Pac dated one of his daughters. The topic is old as fuck, Nas is just the lastest to talk about it. It doesn't make him racist, it doesn't make it controversial in my opinion because it's talked about everyday in colleges, in high schools. It's something that has to be brought out in the open, and talked about so that we can finally, after 139 years after slavery ended, after many black men were killed for just looking at white women, after Jack Johnson was arrested for traveling with his white wife and stripped of his heavyweight title for no reason, after all of the shit that's happened just for white women and black men falling in love, we need to end the conversation and move on. If this is the song to finally talk about it, great. I say release it as a single, though it might kill Nas's career, if his willing to do the song, he should be willing to pay the price. I say lets talk about it, lets clear all the air. This black men white women thing has been going on for too long not being accepted. After all this time, we need conversation, not dumb people saying others are racist.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Lost Angel on December 04, 2004, 06:20:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2004, 06:04:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sikotic Dat Armenian-Nigguh on December 04, 2004, 04:19:28 PM ---I speak good english and like women other than black women....awwww shit I guess I'm a coon too then lol.
Whatever, Nas got his own opinion, I don't hate him for what he says, at least he says it like a man.
It sounded like a lot of jealousy in the song as well since he attack sucessful actors like Taye Dogg and Cuba Gooding, while he still hasn't gotten over that flop Belly.
--- End quote ---
It's not the opinions that bother me. I can deal with ignorant racists and have no problems with their stupid opinions. It's the ones that claim to be against it like Nas does and then pull shit like this. It's not only in his songs, he's an idiot in interviews too. I mean he claims this holier than thou role and he just looks so stupid when he comes out like this. What bothers me even more is when Nas fans pay attention to shit like this just because it's Nas, and really have to think about it. If Bill O'Reily called well spoken black men with non black women "coons", all these Nas fans would call him the devil. But it's okay when Nas says it. ::)
--- End quote ---
I ain't really agreeing with the song. After all, I dated black women, I am actually a huge fan of Kobe Bryant, and etc. But I will say it's a topic talked about widely in the black communities. Hanging around black people, I hear it a lot, and I mean a lot. Black women talking about how white women take their men, black men trying to prove they are pro black by dissing those that date white women. It's funny, because in college, all the black men saying they'd only have a black girl, all of them were with white women. 2Pac was talking about the same thing in 1993, dissing Quincy Jones for marrying a white women and having fucked up mixed babies. Then 2Pac dated one of his daughters. The topic is old as fuck, Nas is just the lastest to talk about it. It doesn't make him racist, it doesn't make it controversial in my opinion because it's talked about everyday in colleges, in high schools. It's something that has to be brought out in the open, and talked about so that we can finally, after 139 years after slavery ended, after many black men were killed for just looking at white women, after Jack Johnson was arrested for traveling with his white wife and stripped of his heavyweight title for no reason, after all of the shit that's happened just for white women and black men falling in love, we need to end the conversation and move on. If this is the song to finally talk about it, great. I say release it as a single, though it might kill Nas's career, if his willing to do the song, he should be willing to pay the price. I say lets talk about it, lets clear all the air. This black men white women thing has been going on for too long not being accepted. After all this time, we need conversation, not dumb people saying others are racist.
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Like I said, it's not the idea that bothers me. It's the fact that Nas claims to be above petty racism, and then he tears down all these black guys for not being "black" enough. Obviously interracial sex is an issue, but Nas doesn't address the issue as much as he insults these young men for having different tastes than he does. If Kobe wants to have sex with white women then that's his business, if Tiger Woods wants to speak proper english then that's his business. Nas is an idiot for trying to come off as Jesus, and then passing blame like Judas. Now you see, if he titled his album "Iscariot", then this would make sense, but he has many times in the past couple years associated himself as a Jesus type, and he is hardly showing it.
If he wanted to a dress the issue he could have done so in a story song or concept song. He shows me nothing to assume that it isn't really him saying these words.
Sikotic™:
Just it being an issue makes me sick. I just wish people would drop it and live with harmony.
There I go again, dreaming...
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