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Nas Sparks Controversy w/ 'Coon Picnic' Song
M Dogg™:
Let me think, there are whole different country of people, I mean, millions of millions of millions of people. In Latin American, Brazil is bigger than the main part of the U.S. homie, and it was fulled with natives, Mexico, Central America, Peru, Chile, all these different countries. And there was only a few countries in Europe that took over, in fact in Latin America, two, Spain, and Portigual. Spain does not, did not and will never have enough people to dilute the blood of all the Americas. Have you ever been to Latin America. What you have is a bunch of poor brown people, I mean many many brown people. And yes, just like blacks here, they have some white because like blacks, they're great great grandma's were raped, married off at young ages, or just down right taken from their families. Also is Latin America, there are more black people than in the U.S. In Brazil, they had more slaves in Brazil that the United States by the millions. Many African slaves mixed with the natives, in fact more than the whites. Why you think many baseball players from Latin America look black. To say we didn't come from a struggle is one of the most retarted statements ever. But I understand you are not educated to Latin struggle, to black struggle. You still see things in your eyes, and how it should be. And you use a very classic way of getting the minorities off your back, and that's to tell each minority their problems with each other, and why they should hate each other. It's a classic move that white pull all the time. You may not know it, but I guess since I'm a minority, i have seen it many times. Try again.
7even:
--- Quote from: SGV on December 09, 2004, 03:21:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on December 09, 2004, 11:44:02 AM ---
That's beyond the point. With that comment you admit that you actually would see it as a diss to your culture and race and people, therefore you should apologize for accusing me of being mad cause I can't diss blacks like Nas can. End of story.
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No. It's not beyond the point. The fact is, Latinos and Blacks are virtually one in the same, so it's not realistic. Sorry. You're mad you can't say what you want about Blacks, why Nas, a Black man, can. Live with it.
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It's not about realistic or not headnut. I just want to explain to you why Nas is a dick to me, which I did. If he disses blacks for acting white basically, I see it as a diss to my people as well. Like you would too, no matter how realistic Nas dissing blacks for acting latino is. Which makes your accusation wrong and my explanation valid and understandable.
M Dogg™:
he didn't diss them for acting white. in fact, he gave props to blacks that are educated though out his whole career. It's marrying white, which is something that's roots are too deep. It's a whole image and self hate issue more than it's just marriage. I know it's hard coming from Germany to hear about America's racial problems, especially when we like to sell we have non, and use people like Collin Powell and Candi Rice as examples that our problems don't exsit. But the fact is they do.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Lost Angel on December 09, 2004, 10:56:58 PM ---Let me think, there are whole different country of people, I mean, millions of millions of millions of people. In Latin American, Brazil is bigger than the main part of the U.S. homie, and it was fulled with natives, Mexico, Central America, Peru, Chile, all these different countries. And there was only a few countries in Europe that took over, in fact in Latin America, two, Spain, and Portigual. Spain does not, did not and will never have enough people to dilute the blood of all the Americas. Have you ever been to Latin America. What you have is a bunch of poor brown people, I mean many many brown people. And yes, just like blacks here, they have some white because like blacks, they're great great grandma's were raped, married off at young ages, or just down right taken from their families. Also is Latin America, there are more black people than in the U.S. In Brazil, they had more slaves in Brazil that the United States by the millions. Many African slaves mixed with the natives, in fact more than the whites. Why you think many baseball players from Latin America look black. To say we didn't come from a struggle is one of the most retarted statements ever. But I understand you are not educated to Latin struggle, to black struggle. You still see things in your eyes, and how it should be. And you use a very classic way of getting the minorities off your back, and that's to tell each minority their problems with each other, and why they should hate each other. It's a classic move that white pull all the time. You may not know it, but I guess since I'm a minority, i have seen it many times. Try again.
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I was referring more to Mexico rather than South America, and like I said in my prior post, if you read it, Greece had just as much struggle as any Latino country and for a much longer time.
M Dogg™:
Greeks, Jews, Irish, Italians, they all have struggled, and get along great with minority communities. But this is not about what you are thinking. As I've stated, over and over and over and over again, it's self image and self hate. How darker people view themselves, and how we hate what we see. We see a society that tells us white skin, blue eyes and blond hair is hot. There are very few black models, and just a little bit more latina models than black. Our societies image of what's beautiful is Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson and if they are a different race, then they have to be light like a Christina Aguilera. That's the issue, the issue of our men going to different races because that's what they are told is beauty, not a beautiful black woman or latina, but a blond hair, blue eyed woman. Also, since it's taboo, white women go for darker men. And our women are left being the worst objectified women in the country by their own men, as our men run credit cards up there ass, or spank them with stop signs. Our women are not shown as beautiful, but as slutty, trashy. In order to be a beautiful latina, or black, you have to show skin, shake your ass, have a big ass that you are willing to hang out. It's not ok to just wear a beautiful dress to an award show, our women have to slut themselves. That's the issue, I can write more, and I mean a lot more, as this is just part of the issue. Yes, Greeks, Irish, Italians, Jews, they've struggled, but the interracial dating thing is not just about struggle, it's self image and self hate, and how we hate ourselves because we can't be white.
And for your comment on Mexico, go to Mexico, very few rich white people, millions of poor brown people. And yes, there was some intermixing, that's because we have the same issue, if a woman can be pretty enough, she'll get a white man, if a man makes it, he gets a white woman. In latin culture, more so that black culture, we thrive to be white. Because white's are higher class, they have more money, they are seen as more attractive, we don't care about our struggle, because we don't know we are in one. We are in a struggle trying to be white, because we hate ourself. We hate having dark skin because it means we are poor, we hate that we aren't from Europe, because it mean we came from savages, we hate our dark hair, our dark eyes and anything else that's part of us, because it makes it harder to fit a European image. You don't understand it, because you can't. You never grew up with girls that will turn you down, and straight up say, because you are too dark. I'm talking about my own Mexicans. I am talking about more than once. It makes you want to have lighter skin, because if you had lighter skin, you can date the girls you want. And our girls are raised to find white men, our men are raised that lighter girls are better. We are in a struggle to be light. We can't understand what it's like to be raised in a culture that hate's it's own self. You'll never understand it.
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