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Trauma-san:
Interesting program on Discovery tonight, as yall might know I'm a big Egyptology buff (as Is Overseer, I believe!), and they were detailing Dr. Zahi Hawass' efforts as head of the SCA in Egypt to restore the lost and pilfered treasures that have been stolen from Egypt over the centuries.

Quick rundown, basically Egyptians believed their Pharoah's (kings) were Gods, and mummified them (as well as pretty much anyone who died, rich or poor) so they would live forever with their bodies intact... the Kings were buried in pyramids, and later in the Valley Of the Kings, in elaborate tombs decorated with paintings, gold, statues, hunting equipment, everything they would need in life, for their afterlife.  Most of the tombs were pilfered, and the things from the tombs (down to the dead bodies) were sold and stolen from Egypt, all over the world.  This would be equivalent to someone digging up a U.S. president, and selling his body and jewlery he was wearing to collectors around the world. 

Anyways, Hawass is FORMALLY asking for the return of specific items that have been stolen from Egypt, and reside in museums around the world.  So far, his greatest aquisition has been that a Museum at niagra falls in Canada, had a collection of mummies, and one upon closer inspection last year, turned out to actually be the mummy of Ramses the first!  The museum that purchased the mummy donated the King's body back to Egypt, and it was floated down the Nile, and placed in the Cairo Museum, alongside Ramses's son Seti, and his Grandson, Ramses the II (which is the biblical pharoah connected with Moses). 

Anyways, some of the famous things missing from Egypt are the famous bust of Nefertiti, smuggled out of the country under false pretenses, and currently residing in the Berlin Museum... the famous Oblisk in Paris, stolen from the Luxor Temple (I believe!), and the Rosetta Stone, currently residing in the British Museum.

Do you think these things should be returned to Egypt?  Past criticism has been that Egypt can't properly care for the items, but that has changed with Hawass at the helm, they now have some of the greatest Museums in the world, and are able to conserve their items properly. 

I say bring 'em back.  Even the Oblesik, construct a replica, mount it in Paris with a medallion chronicling the generosity of the French in donating the original back to it's rightful place outside the Temple Luxor. 

Don Seer:

dont washingtong, london and paris all have obelisks?

arent they all also aligned in relation to other things to create "the city of the sun" on earth

*Jamal*:
I think they should be brought back to Egypt.

Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Overseer on December 10, 2004, 01:59:07 AM ---
dont washingtong, london and paris all have obelisks?

arent they all also aligned in relation to other things to create "the city of the sun" on earth

--- End quote ---

I'm not sure about that.  i'm not trying to downplay America's involvement in it, but I've never heard of a city of the sun design like that, you've been reading that cooky fringe shit again.  LOL

Trauma-san:
Oh, Damn... I just realized you were talking about the Washington Monument.  Man of course we BUILT that, that doesn't really have anything to do with the discussion.  The building of the Washington Monument took years, as well, and wasn't in any sort of plan to represent anything other than a Monument to perhaps our GREATEST president, General George Washington.  This is the man who could have been King, but for the advancement of the People's Republic, cast away all that power and STEPPED DOWN after his term was up.  Great man, one of the most important figures in the founding of freedom as we know it today around the world. 

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