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mauzip:
We use instinct too. Way back the only thing we used was instinct cause we had to survive. Nowadays pretty much the only piece of instinct we use is our sex-instinct.
rafsta:
^^^ i realise that Mauzip, we still use alot of instinct, not just for sex, for meeting ppl, assesing situations etc... but were not limited to instinct like the rest of the animal kingdom.... intelligence is the significance of free will in the bible...
Z the laidback Virus:
Who says animals only use instinct? The fact an animal can learn how to fetch sticks, pull levers or how to use and fashion tools makes pretty clear they don't rely on instincts all the time.
rafsta:
--- Quote from: Z the laidback Virus on December 17, 2004, 02:10:08 PM ---Who says animals only use instinct? The fact an animal can learn how to fetch sticks, pull levers or how to use and fashion tools makes pretty clear they don't rely on instincts all the time.
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on their own they use instinct, basic survival skills... ive seen birds n thngs who immitate inteeligence by using sticks to get to ants, they are still using instinct to survive, its where instinct takes em...
lol @ animals fetching sticks, you used a classic example mayn... when they fetch sticks they arent really doin it for anyreason, they do it coz they find it enjoyable to run backwards and forth... and yes animals can enjoy themselves without having freewill, they do have emotions like us... when an animal pulls a lever they dont know what the lever does, all they know is that they get a reward if they pull it, its not intelligence but instinct, they are taught thru instinct if they do something they get something in return... then eventually you can make the animal pull the lever without giving it a reward, but its artificial instinct that humans gave the animal... i hope that made sense...
Z the laidback Virus:
So tell me..what makes that a learning animal just 'follows it's instinct' while a learning person is 'using his brains'? That's non-sense.
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