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He never learns...
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Trauma on December 18, 2004, 02:56:26 PM ---Well, 'we' haven't heard Britney rapping, lol... I wouldn't even attempt to listen to anything like that. A lot of Michael's music is similar to rap, just a little slower. I think he could do it, the guys more talented then probably any musician alive.
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Am I the only one who heard Britney "bust" a freestyle with Busta Rhymes on MTV like... almost a year ago? The wackiest freestyle ever heard lol, her flow is bollox but it was a good laugh ;D
And about Michael... I wonder where's it going wrong with his career at the moment because it's true that he's probably the most talented out there. He needs to stay somehow keep track of the evolutions in music and do his own thing, 2004/2005 style. I could just see him doing a song with Jadakiss, and it wouldn't be bad.
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Michaels problem, in my opinion, is that he doesn't have the right people around him. He's out of touch with the real world. He keeps hiring the wrong people, from management all the way down to producers. He's extremely talented, but he needs someone to tell him "no, Michael, we don't need a children's choir and a 190 piece orchestra on this song, it's overproduced"... or "Michael, you've cried in 20 records already, just sing this one straight", or "Michael, if you called Beyonce I'm sure she'd be glad to have you sing a duet with her on her new album, it would be great for your career". He needs someone around him that isn't just a yes man.
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Well since I have no idea what really goes on in the studio I won't say you're absolutely right, but this is probably what's going on. He might purposely not care how his music is received and just release it the way he wants to, but I could see you being right here. In the beginning he had Quincy and Sony making sure everything he did was great for business and business first. Whether it was Quincy picking the right songs or Sony making sure Rick James and Price didn't get as much air time on MTV as they could have gotten. Michael's career was protected and promoted to extremes. Now Sony doesn't intervene as much as guiding him because they probably see him as a lost cause who could never go back to what he was in the public eye.
Personally I think it's time he dropped the act. He should start talking and singing in his real voice, and paint the whites parts of his skin the same color as his real skin tone (and if they saved his real nose I wouldn't mind seeing it put back in place). He should come out with some more mature records and really explore his talents both musically and lyrically. He won't sell as much as he did in the 80s, but he'd get his cred back and we'd probably here some really good music. I wouldn't recommend Beyonce since she's more for the younger crowd and pushed to be bigger than she really is. Alicia Keys or Norah Jones would make a nice "grown up" duet and I'd take out all the digital shit. Give Mike a 4 or 5 piece band and let him shine. This Peter Pan complex he's got going on is either an act that needs to be given the boot or a problem he needs to resolve because it isn't going to work. If it's an act then it's just plain stupid. If it's real, which I highly doubt, then a grown man who thinks he's a child has no business raising children. He an still help kids with out being eccentric. Steven Seagal has given millions of dollars and spent countless of hours with sick children. No one has ever accused him of molesting them. Why? Because no one knows he does it. Mike makes it a spectacle and attracts attention to it. Well, with e good attention comes the bad attention.
Trauma-san:
How old are you? Just curious... because you have this whole pretentious vibe that reminds me of myself when I was about 16.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 23, 2004, 09:57:03 PM ---How old are you? Just curious... because you have this whole pretentious vibe that reminds me of myself when I was about 16.
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Wasn't I agreeing with you? I may have had slightly different views on what he should be doing with his career, but for the most part we were on the same page. I was hardly trying to express my way as the better way. I would just rather hear a mid 40s man write lyrics and music that suit his age, instead of doing songs with Beyonce and others like her. It would make him look like a guy desperate to get back in the pop scene. To an extent so would dueting with Alicia Keys, but Norah Jones would fit. I'd say Mariah or Whitney would too but that would just appear like the insane people are getting together and would not be good for business.
To answer your question, I'm 22. I do how ever find it funny that you claim to have had a pretentious vibe at 16 implying that it isn't with you now. I just form opinions and state them. Sometimes I try and show other perspectives. You on the other hand take the false authority role.
I bash Michael, you insult me. I praise Michael's abilities, you still insult me.
Trauma-san:
^ I don't hand out opinions on people based on whether we agree or not, I just gave you my honest opinion of your posts, I didn't say you were disagreeing with me or anything.
-CaliKid-:
I agree with both Trauma and Shallow.
Im probably the biggest MJ fan you'll find and I also believe that Mike needs to quit with all the eccentric acts and just get back to doing great music again. A duet with Alicia Keys would be great in my opinion. Honestly speaking MJ will never be as big as he was during the "Thriller" era because that's a once in a lifetime thing. But i do believe that with the right people around he can put out an excellent album that will prove to the haters that he's still got it.
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