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Is the U.S. really the most generous nation?
Ant:
--- Quote from: Woodrow on January 04, 2005, 07:30:32 PM ---Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm back in my school history class.
Although I was a classroom assistant at a special needs school.
Here's some stats for you morons, and remember: this was before the tsunami.
International giving by U.S. foundations totals $1.5 billion per year
Charitable giving by U.S. businesses now comes to at least $2.8 billion annually
American NGOs gave over $6.6 billion in grants, goods and volunteers.
Religious overseas ministries contribute $3.4 billion, including health care, literacy training, relief and development.
$1.3 billion by U.S. colleges are given in scholarships to foreign students
Personal remittances from the U.S. to developing countries came to $18 billion in 2000
Source: Dr. Carol Laderman - Aid and Comfort
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I'm glad you took your history classes, but you should have paid attention in mathematics as well. Generosity by definition is a relative concept and this post was specifically about U.S. government aid.
You sound just as dumb as your fellow republicans on this board when you continue to argue against an arguement I haven't made. I could make an argument that foreign aid is actually a bad thing, but I never said whether it was good or bad, I just pointed out correctly, that the U.S. government is the least generous government in the developed world. It gives a smaller percentage of its annual GNP than any other developed nation. If you can't look at an obvious fact and admit its existence, you shouldn't bother arguing with me. Arguing ignorance all day doesn't make your party stronger it makes it weaker. Maybe if the republican party was filled with more individuals with the courage to see error, and admit the truth, it would be a more respected party. But as it stands today, American Republicans are the least respected political party in the world today. I wonder why?
Machiavelli:
--- Quote from: Ant on January 05, 2005, 11:38:56 AM ---
I'm glad you took your history classes, but you should have paid attention in mathematics as well. Generosity by definition is a relative concept and this post was specifically about U.S. government aid.
You sound just as dumb as your fellow republicans on this board when you continue to argue against an arguement I haven't made. I could make an argument that foreign aid is actually a bad thing, but I never said whether it was good or bad, I just pointed out correctly, that the U.S. government is the least generous government in the developed world. It gives a smaller percentage of its annual GNP than any other developed nation. If you can't look at an obvious fact and admit its existence, you shouldn't bother arguing with me. Arguing ignorance all day doesn't make your party stronger it makes it weaker. Maybe if the republican party was filled with more individuals with the courage to see error, and admit the truth, it would be a more respected party. But as it stands today, American Republicans are the least respected political party in the world today. I wonder why?
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This whole thread you said US and America not US government or American government.
Fuck GNP...we give the most money so it doesnt matter.
Ant:
Taken from my 2nd post:
--- Quote from: Ant on December 21, 2004, 05:59:28 AM ---I'm not talking about individual donations, I'm talking about foreign aid provided by the government. The world's supposed moral authority, the U.S. Government, is the least generous government in the developed world.
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In my original post I referred specifically to U.S. foreign aid, which I can understand could be misunderstood. But foreign aid typically refers to government aid. I also referenced in my original posts, a site showing stastics on foreign aid by national governments. Either way, as you can see from the above quote, while I can understand being misunderstood, I clarified my position so it could be clearly undestood in my second post. So don't tell me I spent this whole thread saying otherwise. Thats why your arguments don't make sense. Because you reinvent other people's positions for them, and then argue against things they never even said. Its slowly becoming the typical republican form of argument. You saw Bush do it continually in the debates, and as i've said before, values emanate from the top down.
Also, you said in your own words, your more generous if you give a higher percentage of your income. Now I've pointed this out to you twice now, and you just say, fuck that we give the most. And you wonder why republicans frequently are branded as being ignorant.
Thirteen:
ant i still see you're a moron.... you questioned if america was the most generous nation and we are..
once again, i bet a poor starving african doesn't care if his next sandwich comes from gary smith living in butt fuck iowa or from george bush
only an idiot like you would argue a point like that and you didn't even argue it good, you came up with one number, woodrow and i proved that was false and now you change your argument saying that we should give more than the 75% of the worlds donations...give it up, you lost
Ant:
--- Quote from: Needles Kane on January 05, 2005, 01:19:41 PM ---ant i still see you're a moron.... you questioned if america was the most generous nation and we are..
once again, i bet a poor starving african doesn't care if his next sandwich comes from gary smith living in butt fuck iowa or from george bush
only an idiot like you would argue a point like that and you didn't even argue it good, you came up with one number, woodrow and i proved that was false and now you change your argument saying that we should give more than the 75% of the worlds donations...give it up, you lost
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no moron you lost. enjoy your dead end job, its a sign of your stupidity. if you arent going to recognize reality i'm not going to bother discussing things with you politely.
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