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A few questions about Christianity.
ZILLA THA GOODFELLA:
If there is any problems with the religion, it's people like you who DON'T answer. And the ones who do, really don't make sense. It's all faith as they say, it doesn't matter if it makes sense. That makes people turn on the religion, infinite is a prime example of this.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Menace To Society on December 21, 2004, 04:42:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: RODZILLA tha BAYlien on December 20, 2004, 11:50:43 AM ---
Now, I dunno who has heard of the Seventh-Day Adventist church, but they go to church on Saturdays. They believe after the six days of Creation, the lord rested on the seventh day
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It says in the Bible that God "rested". From the jump, when you read that in the Bible, you know something ain't right.
Right there, you know that "sleeping" can not be an attribute of God, and this book must have fell to corruption by the Church (Constatine, Paul, and other people who changed the true teachings of Jesus). If God is resting, then who is maintaining and sustaining the Universe?
In the Qu'ran, God (Allah) is put in his proper postion, and his attributes are coherent and logical. Here's the difference of how God is described in the Noble Qu'ran...
Surah 2.Al-Baqara (The Cow), verse 255
"Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep.[/i] His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitted? He knoweth what (appeared to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory)."
*****Disclaimer*******
.....no disrespect to the Christians, especially MDogg I don't want to be disrespectful to him cause he's always respectful to me. But I should be able to post my position just like everyone else.
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no disrespect taken. You believe in one religion and I believe in another. In the end we are all to be human brothers and sisters. I know the Bible preaches to love your neighbors, not bomb them 'cause they ain't Christians. I try to apply that my life. So we are all good, I actually am trying to read the Qu'ran, and next the Book of Mormon, trying to study each point of view. I will always be Catholic, and soon I want to make it official. (I've never been confermed. But it always pays to know about each different religion.
-VZA-:
so it says God rested... how do you come to the conclusion that the universe is supposed to fall apart if He rests?
think about it... if you create a program and you run it... what else is there to do but sit back and watch the end result? well, you might argue "what if there's something wrong with the program, shouldn't you step in and fix it?"
God created this program called the universe and since it was created by God, do you think God would create a program with flaws in it? everything in this universe is there for a reason. just because YOU feel it's messed up or it could be better if this had happened instead of that doesn't make it so. just trust that God has created a plan from start to finish before he even set that plan into motion. so basically, yeah... after God created the laws, the heavens, and the earth... he rested.
i don't know your history but if you've ever worked a job then you probably know that the man upstairs probably does the least amount of work and does a lot of resting. does the company fall apart if he rests? not at all... not as long as his initial plan is going according to how he set it up in the first place. now since God created the plans for the universe and the elements of the universe have no choice but to act as God said they must... how could things just fall apart?
i'll give you a chance to respond before i go any further.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: RODZILLA tha BAYlien on December 21, 2004, 09:13:57 AM ---If there is any problems with the religion, it's people like you who DON'T answer. And the ones who do, really don't make sense. It's all faith as they say, it doesn't matter if it makes sense. That makes people turn on the religion, infinite is a prime example of this.
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^ And again you prove my point... you obviously have preconcieved notions and opinions of the religion, you don't inquire because you want to learn, you inquire because you want to prove you're right, and christians are wrong.
Ant:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 21, 2004, 09:03:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: RODZILLA tha BAYlien on December 21, 2004, 09:13:57 AM ---If there is any problems with the religion, it's people like you who DON'T answer. And the ones who do, really don't make sense. It's all faith as they say, it doesn't matter if it makes sense. That makes people turn on the religion, infinite is a prime example of this.
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^ And again you prove my point... you obviously have preconcieved notions and opinions of the religion, you don't inquire because you want to learn, you inquire because you want to prove you're right, and christians are wrong.
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someone has to be wrong when you have christians, jews, muslims, buddhists, atheists, and so on. Not to mention the fact that christianity interprets its own religion in a thousand different ways depending upon the sect you belong to, and interprets its religion differently within your particular sect you belong too depending on your church. For example, I'm catholic and we have Jesuit Catholics, Franciscan Catholics, and so on. And Protestants disagree with catholics on a wealth of issues. I agree its fair to say religion is faith based, but your faith is in Jesus Christ. Faith doesn't mean contradictions don't exist. At least infinite tried to understand his religion. Jesus Christ says love thy neighbor, and you say you support the deaths of thousands of innocent iraqis, and the torture of detainees. Christains went on a crusade against Muslims. And Christianity played a large part in the rise of Nazism and the extermination of the Jews. You use religion as a shield to hide your ignorance, and justify your evils.
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