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Classic albums since 2000
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Menace To Society on December 21, 2004, 03:50:00 AM ---The Marshall Mathers LP and the Eminem Show are the only classic album since the turn of the century.
All the other classics like the one mentioned in the origional post represent a epoch in hip-hop that has came and went.
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The Chronic and Doggystyle represent an era that came and went with G-Funk, Run DMC represents an era that came and went, same with Rakim, and all them eras never lasted longer than 3 years. So what's your point. When you live through things you know are classic, like in my youth The Chronic, Doggystyle, Ready to Die, Illmatic, you can't denie these. I remember being young and people hating on them too. I remember people saying the Chronic can't be classic because it had too many skits and side B was falling off because of that and the only great song was Bitches Ain't Shit. I remember people dissing Ready to Die because it was wacked. I have never, ever seen an undisputed classic, but those that are widely seen as classic were seen as classic at the moment. All the ones I mentioned, they were classics and most people thought of them so the moment you heard it.
Blueprint, classic. I hated on the CD and I can't denie it. Production was the best since Chronic 2001, and the best eastcoast producted CD ever. Yeah I said, best producted eastcoast CD ever. And Jay-Z's lyrics proved he was one of the greatest ever. I don't think it can be denied.
Stillmatic, classic. The impact alone set the tone for the rest of the 3 years, as since then real hip-hop and conscience rap have been more acceptable in mainstream America. And what you mean between 2nd Childhood and What Goes Around it falls off. Destroy & Rebuild, classic battle track to the other QB rappers who used to be his friends, The Flyest was a cool song, Braveheart Party was taken off the CD, Rule was one of the best conscience songs out there, and was single ready if Nas would have chose to, and My Country is a perfect song to be before What Goes Around.
The College Dropout, classic. Kanye West producted a great CD, and made his sound mainstream. I can't think of a weak track because the production saves it all. I can listen to it from beginning to end without skipping a track, and the replay value is there. Also, The College Dropout made backpackers in hip-hop acceptable again, as The College Dropout shirt is warn by backpackers everywhere. To me, Kanye is setting himself up to be the next great producer after the one and only Dr. Dre and College Dropout is to him what Chronic was to Dre.
Bramsterdam (see ya):
Jedi Mind Tricks - Visions of Ghandi is pretty good imo (2003)
Mr Lif - I Phantom (2002)
Murs 3:16 the 9th Edition (2004)
Lincoln:
--- Quote from: T-Dogg on December 21, 2004, 10:44:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Reform-A-Tory on December 21, 2004, 08:44:07 AM ---There's been no classic albums in any genre since 2000.
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That's when you know you've become old - you tend to think that the new music today is nowhere near old music quality wise. Imagine what somebody who grew up on 50 Cent, Lil Jon and Kanye West will think when those artists are considered "old" music.
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Lol, for real. I always feel like an old man, no matter what music genre I'm talking about.
smartass:
first off, stillmatic didnt make concious rap acceptable in the mainstream. concious rap was going strong until gangsta rap came along. theres no such thing as "real hiphop"...im not even going to speak on that elitist nonsense...what is this "impact" you keep speaking of? without ether that album would've came and went. the only thing people still talk about is the battle. how the hell is the intro going to have the best beat, and then you got about 4 other tracks with medicore production and the album still gets called a classic? nah...not at all
at least with blueprint i can see why people consider that a classic. every track was hot. there was not one bad beat on the entire album. it set a production trend. the album had good concepts...hell fab even used one of them...yeah, its probably jays weakest effort lyrically, but that hasnt stopped albums like livin proof or the chronic from being classic.
Ras Kass' Toothpick:
--- Quote from: Lost Angel on December 21, 2004, 11:08:13 AM ---Yeah I said, best producted eastcoast CD ever.
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That's a bold statement, ever heard of Illmatic or Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)?
--- Quote from: Lost Angel on December 21, 2004, 11:08:13 AM ---And what you mean between 2nd Childhood and What Goes Around it falls off. Destroy & Rebuild, classic battle track to the other QB rappers who used to be his friends, The Flyest was a cool song, Braveheart Party was taken off the CD, Rule was one of the best conscience songs out there, and was single ready if Nas would have chose to, and My Country is a perfect song to be before What Goes Around.
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Add "Every Ghetto", an excellent way to end the album.
--- Quote from: Lost Angel on December 21, 2004, 11:08:13 AM ---I can listen to it from beginning to end without skipping a track, and the replay value is there.
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I didn't think I'd ever hear that. That's the problem with the album, there are too many skippers, mostly skits but it still fucks up the album a little.
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